From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Petton <nicolas@petton.fr>
Cc: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
Rostislav Svoboda <rostislav.svoboda@gmail.com>,
Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Emacs 25.3 released
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:32:49 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC=50j_y75-kC2R7htOj7jzG7SRO40TU2pRYf4MGRGZJWgVvmQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87efrbu5hi.fsf@petton.fr>
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Hi Nicolas,
it is very easy to be a critic and technology has just made it easy to
spread those criticisms with no real cost - just type and hit send. As far
as I can see, you and Eli thought about how to do this release, considered
the implications and did what you believed was most appropriate given
priorities and resources. I certainly acknowledge and appreciate your
efforts. Ignore the negative noise, most of it is lacking in facts, built
on assumptions and fails to recognise hindsight is always 20/20. Thee has
been no adverse consequences and I feel you and Eli have shown the action
was responsible and well reasoned. Points have been raised and
acknowledged, time to move on and recognise that most of the fine work done
to maintain Emacs is done by volunteers who need to make time to do these
contributions in a modern world where most of us have too much to do with
too little time to do it.
thanks for your efforts.
Tim
On 13 September 2017 at 04:38, Nicolas Petton <nicolas@petton.fr> wrote:
> Rostislav Svoboda <rostislav.svoboda@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > The thing is guys in my daily-job I do this kind of "release and pray"
> > source code management on a daily basis.
> > You know - cobol, mainframes, finance industry, dinosaurs...
>
> I had to produce the tarball as quickly as I could, which meant
> yesterday evening after work. We agreed with Eli not to bother with the
> website or the Git branch, as it was much less urgent than releasing the
> security fix. However, I do have the changes on my local Git repo, so
> there's no need to worry (I'll push them right after sending this email).
>
> To be honest, I'm a bit frustrated with all the negative attitude
> regarding this release.
>
> Nico
>
--
regards,
Tim
--
Tim Cross
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Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-11 20:52 [ANNOUNCE] Emacs 25.3 released Nicolas Petton
2017-09-12 8:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 11:29 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-12 11:56 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 12:10 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2017-09-12 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 12:44 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-12 12:55 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-12 13:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 13:29 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2017-09-12 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 15:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 15:55 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-12 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 18:26 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-12 19:09 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-12 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 18:39 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-13 6:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 16:42 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2017-09-12 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 18:38 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-12 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 19:00 ` Robert Weiner
2017-09-12 20:49 ` martin rudalics
2017-09-12 22:05 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2017-09-12 23:39 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-13 16:18 ` Tino Calancha
2017-09-13 16:39 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-20 22:32 ` Tim Cross [this message]
2017-09-21 7:25 ` Richard Copley
2017-09-21 7:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-21 18:53 ` Richard Copley
2017-09-21 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-21 19:26 ` Richard Copley
2017-09-21 20:56 ` Phillip Lord
2017-09-22 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-22 15:29 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-27 10:18 ` Phillip Lord
2017-09-29 9:54 ` Stephen Leake
2017-09-29 10:46 ` Phillip Lord
2017-09-29 12:46 ` Richard Copley
2017-10-02 11:54 ` Phillip Lord
2017-09-30 7:22 ` Stephen Leake
2017-09-21 20:37 ` Phillip Lord
2017-09-22 2:02 ` Stephen Leake
2017-09-22 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 15:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 6:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-13 6:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-13 7:07 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-13 7:40 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-13 8:53 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-13 8:57 ` Rostislav Svoboda
2017-09-13 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 8:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 8:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-13 8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 8:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-13 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 15:12 ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-09-13 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 18:14 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-19 23:36 ` John Wiegley
2017-09-12 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 22:13 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-14 14:19 ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
2017-09-14 20:50 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-13 1:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-12 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 16:05 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-09-12 16:30 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-12 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 18:26 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-09-12 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 16:39 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-13 16:39 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-14 6:51 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2017-09-15 8:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-14 11:15 ` Philippe Vaucher
2017-09-12 22:11 ` Timur Aydin
2017-09-12 22:16 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-12 16:06 ` Roland Winkler
2017-09-12 16:41 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-12 16:54 ` Roland Winkler
2017-09-12 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 17:40 ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-12 17:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 18:29 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-13 16:39 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-13 19:36 ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-09-14 1:42 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-14 6:37 ` Ulrich Mueller
2017-09-14 13:24 ` Etienne Prud’homme
2017-09-14 15:01 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-14 20:52 ` [ANNOUNCE] " Richard Stallman
2017-09-12 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-12 17:46 ` Phillip Lord
2017-09-13 1:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-14 19:49 ` security-patches package (was: [ANNOUNCE] Emacs 25.3 released) Ted Zlatanov
2017-09-15 12:32 ` security-patches package Stefan Monnier
2017-09-16 15:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-09-21 20:01 ` Phillip Lord
2017-09-22 3:12 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <878th32hzx.fsf@russet.org.uk>
2017-09-25 10:24 ` Phillip Lord
2017-09-22 12:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-09-23 4:15 ` Stephen Leake
2017-09-12 23:45 ` Hotfixing older Emacsen? Was: [ANNOUNCE] Emacs 25.3 released Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-09-14 10:05 ` Phillip Lord
2017-09-18 0:03 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-18 7:48 ` Nicolas Petton
2017-09-18 11:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-18 20:31 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-18 20:30 ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-13 18:40 ` Charles A. Roelli
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