From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why all the Alt bindings by default?
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:35:47 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC=50j_fE0=78mtE=Gj3dse=zcTWCA_eeK4LZ9bnbGSBUU1j=w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67D259D03C5D4CEEB3735689FE31215A@us.oracle.com>
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
>> > What is the new feature?
>>
>> There is nothing new here. This is almost as old as Emacs.
>
> I thought that seeing `A-/' etc. listed as a binding was new in Emacs 24. But
> following the same recipe in Emacs 23.2 and 23.3 (but not 23.1) shows the same
> thing. So this was new with Emacs 23.2, not Emacs 24, and it belongs in the
> Emacs 23.2 NEWS.
>
> Or maybe you feel that it is a bug rather than a feature or the consequence of a
> feature?
>
>
>
Regardless of whether it appeared in emacs 23 or 24 or whether it
requires more than 1 C-h b for the Alt 'bindings' to be shown with C-h
b, the bottom line is that these key translations are shown as key
bindings when they are not. Apart from being misleading for users, I
find it a pain having to scroll past all of these misleading entries
to get to what I'm after - information on key bindings.
Something is needed that at the very least will filter these entries
out of C-h b.
One question I do have - what happens if you do have a keyboard that
is setup to have both meta and alt (as well as super and hypa) and you
want to do a real alt binding using one of these keys? It is fairly
trivial to setup your keyboard to have hypa nd supa under X, so I
suspect adding alt is not that hard given the number of keyboards with
extra/dead keys available.
Tim
--
Tim Cross
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-26 21:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-26 16:50 Why all the Alt bindings by default? Drew Adams
2011-10-26 17:02 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-26 17:13 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-26 19:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-26 20:20 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-26 21:35 ` Tim Cross [this message]
2011-10-27 1:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-27 2:05 ` Tim Cross
2011-10-27 4:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-27 4:14 ` Tim Cross
2011-10-27 4:52 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-27 5:35 ` Tim Cross
2011-10-27 8:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-27 12:19 ` Tim Cross
2011-10-27 15:17 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-27 15:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-27 15:43 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-27 15:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-27 16:06 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-27 12:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-27 15:20 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-28 0:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-26 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-26 18:03 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-26 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-26 20:14 ` Drew Adams
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