From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Cross Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8176: 24.0.50; GUI toolkit differences Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 17:02:42 +1000 Message-ID: References: <8762ry8arr.fsf@rapttech.com.au> <4E12A77B.10209@swipnet.se> <4E12CFED.5040700@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309935842 29754 80.91.229.12 (6 Jul 2011 07:04:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 07:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 8176@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Jan D." Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 09:03:58 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeM9N-0002O8-S4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 09:03:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37134 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeM9M-0003ee-IA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 03:03:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57743) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeM8Z-0003ZY-MJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 03:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeM8V-00043j-EJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 03:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeM8V-00043X-BF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 03:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeM8U-00031R-TX; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 03:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tim Cross Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8176 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8176-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8176.130993577311591 (code B ref 8176); Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8176) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2011 07:02:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeM8K-00030u-5E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 03:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeM8G-00030Y-Cw for 8176@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 03:02:49 -0400 Original-Received: by iye7 with SMTP id 7so5961122iye.3 for <8176@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:02:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HFlhCQr6TEOR6erWDhOy65jczYJpaSGeIGwc/LoytYA=; b=Yr4y19GlRxcfFitpUMNPgr5xH5IGHSu8MhVk7WW2oKDrY1hCfIXLBgaWx7G4Q4lRLE ce4xfSfbNX+lDj5jCdoZ//eCPuR3EbZrz02oWpDqeo8s8u3yx1l6vGOVDiVCFB8Ra8Fx gfPNfS05rXLMoDcEX7I91Q6jv88uNAdFjyCbY= Original-Received: by 10.231.67.145 with SMTP id r17mr7370635ibi.176.1309935762469; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.39.140 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 00:02:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E12CFED.5040700@swipnet.se> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 03:03:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48065 Archived-At: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Jan D. wrote: > Tim Cross skrev 2011-07-05 08:02: >> >> No, As I understand it, it only works under Lucid =A0and MS Windows. I >> confirmed the Lucid/X side of things and some others confirmed the >> windows version. >> >> Is OSX/Nextstep just using GTK+ under the hood or is it a completely >> different toolkit? > > It is totally different. > Good to know. It was suggested that this code failing was evidence of a bug in GTK+, though I feel it is more evidence of a design decision wrt GUI philosophy rather than a bug. Having another toolkit which appears to adopt the same/similar convention of not supporting top level 'action' or 'buttons' in menus tends to support the design decision stance rather than seeing it as a bug. Tim