From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Cross Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Require `make' when configuring? Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:09:06 +1000 Message-ID: References: <4E32D3F0.5050309@dogan.se> <4E32DF31.3010909@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312081760 10583 80.91.229.12 (31 Jul 2011 03:09:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 03:09:20 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs developers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 31 05:09:14 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QnMOv-0002pR-EC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Jul 2011 05:09:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55004 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QnMOu-0000Ox-DG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:09:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QnMOr-0000Ol-Gy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:09:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QnMOq-0004UH-Ki for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:09:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:52331) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QnMOq-0004U0-9d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: by iyb14 with SMTP id 14so6926208iyb.0 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:09:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Q5ng5tBKdEOXAGxIg6/fYNO8K1Wlcbwu4Ky+5TRVm+c=; b=oteriHbsaBhZ3ikW8VhOQXWGG6I6avpVQepKHnErJGk0+p7HEINC3EYP+sSYKhywo5 HQhEhK+SRIi0vumtZKHKsVUQppj6KMU3YrEqhFcEJeNZ0awTc9RVrmy3mNb6sGgc/cnc mN3AmohAp97e0y9Xo3qxiCxqIdAoSN3JyjXlU= Original-Received: by 10.231.197.16 with SMTP id ei16mr1948135ibb.111.1312081746708; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.35.74 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:09:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E32DF31.3010909@cs.ucla.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142537 Archived-At: On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 07/29/11 08:38, Deniz Dogan wrote: > >> Should we add "make" to "progs" in autogen.sh? > > My kneejerk reaction is "no", because autogen.sh is > for the early stages of automatically-generating files > needed for 'make'; it does not use 'make' or 'gcc' > or etc. itself. > > It's not practical for autogen.sh to check for all > possible things that can go wrong during > a 'make' (missing headers, libraries, bad compilers, etc.), > and a missing 'make' falls into the category of > "possible things that can go wrong during a 'make'". > > I would have thought checking for make and such was the role of configure? Especially as this is a test that would want to be done when building from a tarball while autogen.sh is something done only when building from bzr and you need to generate the configure script. Tim