From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Cross Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: non-gnu elpa issue tracking Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 16:20:32 +1100 Message-ID: References: <20201209125516.lenqswi7fhiscbr2@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ea7eda05b651afcb" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19526"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Jean Louis , Emacs developers , Boruch Baum , thibaut.verron@gmail.com, Stefan Kangas To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 13 06:23:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1koJqg-0004xH-P1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 06:23:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48460 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koJqf-0001I9-RF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 00:23:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45438) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koJoN-0008Mp-8z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 00:20:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ot1-x32a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::32a]:38030) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1koJoL-0003RU-FI; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 00:20:47 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-x32a.google.com with SMTP id j20so7982389otq.5; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:20:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CSUfT1voRO/Z7dH2+nbwr2sVSMKGfVtQ8L05aaEY1J8=; b=fJBTd/hy7hPJJFfNukFYxixhLc67KAYCvh6WyVesVYfJGKG0FtPCBF6In8YInTegeW Vpxq8ht+WI88r7AI4zLL9phSNlXWdaSuDhTdmjrX1YAl06OjqEgDJxy6x9SDZRwadiha kTWgtMa5JFuTaFHkH5R9WPQLl1W4r8x6sJG7rpPKbkZz5HNsFhSQg7wbFQ44QqRFuyJ3 pVmgCsiyU5NtaaLpT3L+x3rNJNpako7rBYhaowM4qRM9VXY1JeisPSnkkLO2bO5Xslou vUKDHNeOKM+V2o81o7jfyCMKmZbqsYNzZcb/GG8ZErf8NeiE26L6DyV7ogZ1IRNneVQ2 4vWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CSUfT1voRO/Z7dH2+nbwr2sVSMKGfVtQ8L05aaEY1J8=; b=XZcbFYJKK0uAepEQsdL3s21wNzQbyUCqxZotozr8DuR8Lx46dhzfOixhgCKTlWngeZ lnfHIer64R28ep4dKDmEapVUfvmFRbR8np+FIc7Pf/yf19ygAMZMGY6j4DhUUH5E19qq VkYcdmWesiQULNimP5yK9uFwcLi3eRii3GR1CO91PhVmvRc1L0QuzAAUEe2TmuNLN13R hFxrCVzXZIXxc4aPlrBNYtmRb/XfoFAuqs/zz5/Pdu2Ec1VEaFIbsQeCeoMrDXEymg10 23hQwd/kWNvbGo+0FMRP4VgnKSPm54mQBzOx63vxM2nSdlDHZPBwVZ/FxF3fYWUAxSB9 7aEQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531H9h2KZfmdC+nzsdrp13th6AJjJ3+fvG/tCskb48a8+pdl8LkS w9Wp5HyUd7JjLDqzVbEDlHUutkLy5xT41MuhPo6Y/ii7G+V0Ew== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwzJ05CBUHiiiUxsJBTM9tSAfIAGhF/CPbunB2ymPH2DBvejjc/2lZV/Zi9UK36jVLm+ksBkNKR1/YULYKqoAE= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:620d:: with SMTP id g13mr15327190otj.56.1607836843539; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:20:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::32a; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-ot1-x32a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260749 Archived-At: --000000000000ea7eda05b651afcb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 15:56, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > I think a mandatory requirement should simply be that any > > > packages which go into non-GNU ELPA are hosted on an approved > > > platform. We could point to a list of such hosting providers > > > e.g. https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html > > > and say Grade C or better only. . > > > There is no such requirement for GNU ELPA at the moment. > > GNU ELPA packages are hosted inside GNU ELPA itself. The package > developers update their packages inside GNU ELPA. > > NonGNU ELPA will be quite different. Packages will generally be > hosted elsewhere. We won't insist that the developers do things > in the way we would consider acceptable in the GNU Project. > > > Sorry, but I don't think this is an accurate statement. The GNU ELPA repository has external packages where the code is primarily maintained/developed externally, often on github. A 'regular' process pulls the data into the GNU ELPA repository to generate new/updated package versions. --000000000000ea7eda05b651afcb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 15:56, Richard= Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
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[[[ To any NSA and = FBI agents reading my email: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
=C2=A0 > > I think a mandatory requirement should simply be that any<= br> =C2=A0 > > packages which go into non-GNU ELPA are hosted on an appro= ved
=C2=A0 > > platform. We could point to a list of such hosting provide= rs
=C2=A0 > > e.g. https://www.gnu.org/= software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html
=C2=A0 > > and say Grade C or better only. .

=C2=A0 > There is no such requirement for GNU ELPA at the moment.

GNU ELPA packages are hosted inside GNU ELPA itself.=C2=A0 The package
developers update their packages inside GNU ELPA.

NonGNU ELPA will be quite different.=C2=A0 Packages will generally be
hosted elsewhere.=C2=A0 We won't insist that the developers do things in the way we would consider acceptable in the GNU Project.


Sorry, but I don't think this is an accurate = statement. The GNU ELPA repository has external packages where the code is = primarily maintained/developed externally, often on github. A 'regular&= #39; process pulls the data into the GNU ELPA repository to generate new/up= dated package versions.=C2=A0=C2=A0

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