From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Cross Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why all the Alt bindings by default? Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:14:22 +1100 Message-ID: References: <6F1ADCC148584A4A80CF9FF727BE1915@us.oracle.com> <67D259D03C5D4CEEB3735689FE31215A@us.oracle.com> <83r51zaxhg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319688881 23333 80.91.229.12 (27 Oct 2011 04:14:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 04:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 27 06:14:33 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJHMK-00019R-Ms for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:14:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40052 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJHMJ-0003Eu-Uv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:14:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:57485) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJHMH-0003Ee-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:14:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJHMG-0001Cv-IQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:14:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:52652) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJHMF-0001Ch-7g; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 00:14:23 -0400 Original-Received: by iagf6 with SMTP id f6so3419126iag.0 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:14:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yFQQ7FuMSk6RSRkjMfWoewRWAfGy53kMT85Gf9Wf8Zs=; b=fXqyY0O2H1WDaBOcyXI90apJPt8THyMkJIlpR0yk8Y/FX+/jr87KGoBkOR9q4snlen NRzjHpg3HjKQeKDknl6mv/iALEir8Zvl44t6vVTCBn7HELnYmAvdQYoKDTAbDIACSyL/ oyej/L4//2GjryNAUrWr445268LoaFLOYS1mg= Original-Received: by 10.231.68.136 with SMTP id v8mr2895097ibi.51.1319688862323; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.12.67 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:14:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83r51zaxhg.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145622 Archived-At: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:35:47 +1100 >> From: Tim Cross >> Cc: Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> One question I do have - what happens if you do have a keyboard that >> is setup to have both meta and alt (as well as super and hypa) and you >> want to do a real alt binding using one of these keys? > > Are you saying that you can actually get these "bindings" to work? > That is, if you press Alt-R, you get the registered trademark? > Because that's not what happens to me. =A0In my case, Emacs says "A-R is > undefined". > > No, what I was asking is what happens if I do want to bind alt-R? I think this was answered in another post i.e. you have to 'undo' the key translation first. The other question is if I have defined some real alt bindings, how do you tell those form key translations? Tim --=20 Tim Cross