From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Cross Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some stats regarding emacs modernisation discussions Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 08:24:47 +1000 Message-ID: References: <87r1r23qdq.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e4915b05af75bca1" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30229"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: =?UTF-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8gS2F5YWFscA==?= , emacs-devel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 17 00:26:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIfsZ-0007l6-7X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2020 00:26:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36072 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIfsY-0003LP-6y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:26:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIfrM-0002ai-DH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi1-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f]:37988) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIfrH-0007eo-V3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 18:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id y6so123435oie.5 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 15:24:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=8Ff+JJtAapcPiIv8KlCFmr2M19zliDzK/PXElKSbLNc=; b=KDcmRKD42slBdIvsC627qU6qsbqApjdmpAWHMqwIQ7AM2H0iE/4CZI30EnOpWwMIOj bTHeZIES27ScfS+bRqYMgi1E4Lr8sd7fGGIfazSC7Yg8+PVcAetE5AlIuVH2FEDnmFtO UXbxdMoU/c+Z/u1ml+sgA0IcgfcNhis6t9SGFw+P5a3om8ufZq32fdvPVmf0ITPxzqJO kkKSdbA94qfNus8O9ZoflSOXo26TPnYgSWiA0nkfehpnnl7vSMa3JOmt8Qrg+FHFDTzv o0k7L4IFjhawViPHgNKk+At/3P5OgfNXnrPRgreBY5VzQFwTJ9bSEgveTjp0/2Uy44m6 +pzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=8Ff+JJtAapcPiIv8KlCFmr2M19zliDzK/PXElKSbLNc=; b=Hf0z01Mi6QDZmWqZJEEPlqMxoEwa3T4W+/52TtUluxJ+YDXpVV6StSd5zFbrZGjQK2 OMzd2tYQAOVc+vhH9UQmsd3b8YJmJB22o8bsyqND3SNt+S64zyxDfMQ8RMT/9zSVftQG OfAZIhQjebgDfPZJPg6lB34UpEqg9zGaW2OPUp/yhfxgf4EjL7sEmiNAQN2H5JqRh7AA lx5sbuFz7kj0lj+WgowHOP26NUCrxvrPxp359J7Fvf8UfYE13yUJqr1LkEfEvAnZp8lu dcWoZ2pY0wZhjDzYi6gFAhnZoxJdSs3EOZn6nm0P32da7tE7Mw6SnQVobglaprWM0Fl3 +TwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530AzhOv/IxZiEsdMSjHIXO2tQHpU0H6Md2XEmJZVc/5YY/VKGOU EMG69JygRZZATmESEq+ZBg0KZZ3fRDsU4ApaXnk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw1lqbpA7Cf1BoVCqwzu8L5QJXeKpMsQbtm3Rp2O2az3ovrPy/ZudbEbzWnONvyQUTWS06/59Lg7pNYTku+p88= X-Received: by 2002:aca:b48b:: with SMTP id d133mr4741421oif.47.1600295098682; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 15:24:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f; envelope-from=theophilusx@gmail.com; helo=mail-oi1-x22f.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255941 Archived-At: --000000000000e4915b05af75bca1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I don't think breaking this off into a separate mail list is necessary. This is a topic that comes up fairly regularly and then tends to die down, either because some consensus is reached and some things change or it just runs out of steam. Either way, it is good to have this sort of discussion in a single place and in the archives. My only suggestion would be to continue to split off specific ideas once they show some merit (by which I mean sufficient interest or more concrete proposals etc). On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 00:45, Drew Adams wrote: > > it might be good idea to break this discussion off into its > > own mailing list > > No, please, no. > > > given it looks like the volume of it will be > > consistently high for some time to come, dominating > > emacs-devel. > > Not at all. It comes around from time to time. > It by no means dominates emacs-devel, nor should it. > > You have a very parochial, local, immediate impression > of this mailing list. > > Look in the archives, to see how much this subject > "dominates" the list: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/ > > -- regards, Tim -- Tim Cross --000000000000e4915b05af75bca1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't think breaking this off into a separate mail l= ist is necessary. This is a topic that comes up fairly regularly and then t= ends to die down, either because some consensus is reached and some things = change or it just runs out of steam. Either way, it is good to have this so= rt of discussion in a single place and in the archives.=C2=A0

My only suggestion would be to continue to split off specific ideas o= nce they show some merit (by which I mean sufficient interest or more concr= ete proposals etc).=C2=A0

On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 00:45, Drew Adams <= ;drew.adams@oracle.com> wro= te:
> it migh= t be good idea to break this discussion off into its
> own mailing list

No, please, no.

> given it looks like the volume of it will be
> consistently high for some time to come, dominating
> emacs-devel.

Not at all.=C2=A0 It comes around from time to time.
It by no means dominates emacs-devel, nor should it.

You have a very parochial, local, immediate impression
of this mailing list.

Look in the archives, to see how much this subject
"dominates" the list:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/


--
regards,

Tim

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Tim Cross

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