From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mathias Dahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:12:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <50994EF8.5000109@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045015d0051dc6b04cdee2e40 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352322786 26326 80.91.229.3 (7 Nov 2012 21:13:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 21:13:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Adrian.B.Robert@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 07 22:13:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TWCvr-0007Ap-2C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:13:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41946 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWCvh-00071S-Vv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:12:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39560) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWCve-00071C-Vm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:12:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWCvd-0006Hg-Uu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:12:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.216.169]:63443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWCva-0006H1-MG; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:12:50 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t2so1626916qcq.0 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 13:12:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=MFjYMCFV5NBd4icjrYVpTza3uh/X6NljY9/6zJ8tCgw=; b=L5LW7IId4Xfj78taspG9EJ0GB8Rv+oqkN9FK8yr8U75IvRvYfGiTMhPO/bkxNstZVA mhFxSv3R7IuWiFP0eN4ii2brOSGuFj0uXCopOmfdH/GWWSKnZgmDlqILzi4Dz9YCjbkL N6lQlRcKeUAVPGomWQFH5TrZ/Rfed0BtXC3c85QHj9BFctzW0uNP4RsNP/EYdSWpylU3 oOkp9VJDVqyKDRm5A4za3X0tQc5LEibXHFx4V2fFG9cdClg029KW/I1xBW62y35IH1uf JR6EEsrx3V9/89Cq7KM8mDklva2meIRPjkb4TqcPrqdSwLrdoEBB3NybvxBW/m0U/6vz YPyg== Original-Received: by 10.229.201.12 with SMTP id ey12mr2154964qcb.47.1352322769869; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 13:12:49 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.49.131.131 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:12:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.216.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154720 Archived-At: --005045015d0051dc6b04cdee2e40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Finally a good proposal, thanks! And about Drew's argument against it, based on the current "page" term in Emacs, I'd say that very few would have a problem with it. The change proposed by Richard would do much more good than harm. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > If PageDown is generally understood as the name for what C-v does, it > seems to me we could give that command the new alias `page-down' and > bind C-v to that. Users would find it clear by reference to what > PageDown does in other programs. The Emacs Manual use that name to > document > the command, but the existing name could remain valid. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St > Boston MA 02110 > USA > www.fsf.org www.gnu.org > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call > > > --005045015d0051dc6b04cdee2e40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Finally a good proposal, thanks!

And about Drew's ar= gument against it, based on the current "page" term=A0
= in Emacs,=A0I'd say that very few would have a problem with it. The cha= nge=A0
proposed by Richard=A0would do much more good than harm.
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On Wed,= Nov 7, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
If PageDown is generally understood as the n= ame for what C-v does, it
seems to me we could give that command the new alias `page-down' and bind C-v to that. =A0Users would find it clear by reference to what
PageDown does in other programs. =A0The Emacs Manual use that name to docum= ent
the command, but the existing name could remain valid.

--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org =A0www.gnu.org
Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
=A0 Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call



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