From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Anders Lindgren Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21508: 24.5; "#" key in italian keyboard on Mac OS X doesn't work Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:35:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: <0D185374-D500-4C0F-9395-3AC5CBF1D694@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1145542e03602605286eecbf X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451831843 25972 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2016 14:37:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 14:37:23 +0000 (UTC) To: 21508-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Giulio Marcon Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 03 15:37:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFjmR-0004Ez-57 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 15:37:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41794 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFjmQ-00025l-JQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 09:37:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39038) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFjmM-00023T-F5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 09:37:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFjmJ-00086q-85 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 09:37:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:47710) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFjmJ-00086e-4a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 09:37:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aFjmH-0003PU-UT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 09:37:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <0D185374-D500-4C0F-9395-3AC5CBF1D694@gmail.com> Resent-From: Anders Lindgren Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 14:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 21508 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 21508@debbugs.gnu.org, andlind@gmail.com, giulio.marcon.vi@gmail.com Original-Received: via spool by 21508-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D21508.145183176213027 (code D ref 21508); Sun, 03 Jan 2016 14:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21508-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2016 14:36:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35928 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aFjlK-0003O3-5h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 09:36:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41]:36848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aFjlI-0003NZ-83 for 21508-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 09:36:00 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id f2so199831304vkb.3 for <21508-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 06:36:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LWekXIEEfZ9VofjrG3Em3UcwU2qlo5syOiEv9gWIjbQ=; b=NuupO/Kq0xkQ7WROdQaicEFtubTSuWAX8syibdkdhiq6Aab6VL+kZG0fgB2uBQ86Vm d/ECSb05k/NF9rhvACsxEjytkF5MPJXQ77xPEgmWlGXpVnB6upLIGzKKk1zxiIVuB8YM S+T5egICK1DEJQLgKgsnYr8CXvEq3untGxrmxy+ACDJ3Tbmmz3KQEjvlUSxa/TS1u2G6 xe/Tj+sQBaMRHzWEOeWcUPHUQ+LJsF9cN3E8csUFIzi5c3U1fL2778YNJh2TIEA11wEK Ljjvo1vFQ4BKq30LZaM+42iNshjJo/i9kxpisWbwXcbKnSEFdOQekNc4OUjXG8DfynNe Og6A== X-Received: by 10.31.8.83 with SMTP id 80mr58417055vki.105.1451831754709; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 06:35:54 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.31.214.131 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 06:35:54 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:111146 Archived-At: --001a1145542e03602605286eecbf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi! Unfortunately, the default keyboard layout of Emacs binds CMD to "Super" and ALT to "Meta". While this work when using an American keyboard, it is not good for us european users. Fortunately, it's relative easy to configure this yourself. One common layout is to bind CMD to "Meta" and ALT to "compose": (setq ns-command-modifier 'meta) (setq ns-alternate-modifier nil) Another layout is to keep the left ALT key as Meta and bind the right ALT to "compose": (setq ns-right-alternate-modifier nil) I have tried to convince the Emacs people to change the defaults, but a lot of people objected, so it was impossible to agree upon a solution. See https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-12/msg01575.html for details. (The thread goes into 2016-01 as well, but the web interface only shows the messages in December.) -- Anders Lindgren --001a1145542e03602605286eecbf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!

Unfortunately, the default keyboard= layout of Emacs binds CMD to "Super" and ALT to "Meta"= . While this work when using an American keyboard, it is not good for us eu= ropean users.

Fortunately, it's relative easy = to configure this yourself.

One common layout is t= o bind CMD to "Meta" and ALT to "compose":
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0(setq ns-command-modifier 'meta)
<= div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (setq=C2=A0ns-alternate-modifier nil)

Another layout is to keep the left ALT key as Meta and bind the right= ALT to "compose":

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (setq= =C2=A0ns-right-alternate-modifier nil)

I have trie= d to convince the Emacs people to change the defaults, but a lot of people = objected, so it was impossible to agree upon a solution. See=C2=A0h= ttps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-12/msg01575.html for= details. (The thread goes into 2016-01 as well, but the web interface only= shows the messages in December.)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --= Anders Lindgren

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