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From: Anders Lindgren <andlind@gmail.com>
To: "Charles A. Roelli" <charles@aurox.ch>
Cc: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>, 27810@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#27810: NS runtime feature detection
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 22:08:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABr8ebZ=A3bQAVnzD7x4X_XGUjJWXdX6ottRr3Tg8hSmtyEvmg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a38d6d9c-a3a7-d550-2e7c-2cae70cff24b@aurox.ch>

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Hi!

There are a lot of Mac:s still used where the last supported OS version is
10.6.8. It would be a nice touch to support them, at least as long as all
we need to come up with is a good set of preprocessor tests to exclude
code. Of course, should we need to put a lot of effort into maintaining
support, I too would vote for dropping them (after all, there are fairly
modern versions of Emacs available for them).

    -- Anders

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Charles A. Roelli <charles@aurox.ch> wrote:

> I'm not attached to 10.6, but if we can keep supporting it, I'd like to.
>
>
> And for what it's worth, there are 11 places in nsterm.m with
> version-specific code (unless I've missed some):
>
> 12 matches for "MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED" in buffer: nsterm.m
>     140:#if MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED >= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_7
>     157:#if MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED >= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_7
>    5567:  MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED <= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_9
>    6329:  MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED < MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_7
>    7036:  MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED <= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_9
>    7098:  MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED <= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_9
>    7365:#if MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED >= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_7
>    7516:  MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED >= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_9
>    7547:  MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED <= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_9
>    8109:#if MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED >= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_9
>    8120:#endif /* MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED >= MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_9 */
>    8327:  MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED < MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_7
>
> which seems manageable.  But if and when support for earlier macOSen
> causes problems, then I'd have no objections removing support.
>
>
>
> On 25/07/2017 19:56, Alan Third wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 04:53:02PM -0400, Glenn Morris wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, a comment from someone who is disinterested in OS X:
>>>
>>> You could probably make your life easier by not supporting more
>>> than Apple does. Eg on the net I read:
>>>
>>>      Apple is only supporting Mac OS X 10.9 – 10.11. Apple stopped
>>>      providing security updates for Mac OS 10.8 and earlier versions with
>>>      the release of Mac OS X 10.11 (El Capitan) in 2015.
>>>
>> It would make life a lot easier, we could get rid of almost all
>> version dependent code. Just dropping support for 10.6 would remove a
>> lot too.
>>
>> I doubt Charles would like that, though, and he’s the only other
>> person regularly working on the NS port.
>>
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-25 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-06 11:29 Mac OS Sierra tab feature breaks C-x 5 2 Paul Michael Reilly
2017-07-06 12:14 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-06 12:46   ` Sebastian Christ
2017-07-06 12:53 ` Alan Third
2017-07-06 14:35   ` Alan Third
2017-07-06 15:05     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2017-07-06 17:42       ` Alan Third
2017-07-06 22:16         ` Alan Third
2017-07-10 19:17           ` Anders Lindgren
2017-07-10 19:52             ` Alan Third
2017-07-10 20:22               ` Anders Lindgren
2017-07-12 18:23                 ` Alan Third
2017-07-12 21:20                   ` Anders Lindgren
2017-07-13 20:22                     ` Alan Third
2017-07-16 18:43                       ` Anders Lindgren
2017-07-16 23:01                         ` Alan Third
2017-07-17 20:09                           ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-07-18  6:06                             ` Anders Lindgren
2017-07-18 18:33                               ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-07-18 22:16                                 ` Alan Third
2017-07-19  4:57                                   ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-07-21 20:31                                     ` Anders Lindgren
2017-07-22 11:22                                       ` Alan Third
2017-07-23 12:17                                         ` NS runtime feature detection (was: Mac OS Sierra tab feature breaks C-x 5 2) Alan Third
2017-07-24 19:02                                           ` NS runtime feature detection Charles A. Roelli
2017-07-24 20:44                                             ` bug#27810: " Alan Third
2017-07-24 20:53                                               ` Glenn Morris
2017-07-25 17:56                                                 ` Alan Third
2017-07-25 18:22                                                   ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-07-25 20:08                                                     ` Anders Lindgren [this message]
2017-07-26 21:57                                               ` Alan Third
2017-07-31 19:05                                                 ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-08-01 15:38                                                   ` Anders Lindgren
2017-08-01 22:03                                                     ` Alan Third
2017-08-06 20:29                                                       ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-08-06 21:29                                                         ` Alan Third
2017-08-07 19:23                                                           ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-08-10 21:04                                                             ` Alan Third
2017-08-12 11:13                                                               ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-08-12 13:02                                                                 ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-08-16 20:31                                                                   ` Alan Third
2017-08-12 15:51                                                                 ` Alan Third
2017-09-12 20:01                                                                   ` David Caldwell
2017-09-12 20:06                                                                     ` David Reitter
2017-09-12 20:34                                                                       ` Alan Third
2017-09-12 20:29                                                                     ` Alan Third
2017-09-13 19:03                                                                       ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-07-24 20:45                                             ` Alan Third
2017-07-23 22:35                                         ` Mac OS Sierra tab feature breaks C-x 5 2 Tim Cross
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-07-24 20:22 bug#27810: macOS runtime feature detection Alan Third
2017-07-26  2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-26 16:06   ` Alan Third
2017-07-27  1:43     ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-27 17:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-28 17:14         ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-28 17:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-29 19:04             ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-31  0:45               ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-29 19:07     ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-30 12:12       ` Alan Third
2017-07-30 14:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-31  0:47         ` Richard Stallman

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