From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Chambers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: OT: Quick Lego Survey Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:34:25 -0600 Message-ID: Reply-To: tbc@alum.mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408458953 11002 80.91.229.3 (19 Aug 2014 14:35:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) To: esr@thyrsus.com, john@yates-sheets.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, ruediger@c-plusplus.de, swflint@flintfam.org, "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , tsdh@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 19 16:35:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XJkVl-0001pW-9U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:35:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51460 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJkVk-0005Rl-LI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:35:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57449) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJkVG-0005Ol-2A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJkVB-0007vQ-Cj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:35:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::230]:38507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJkV9-0007oh-GN; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:35:07 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id u10so5422466lbd.7 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:35:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=TvMpqsKjQdiACCCiXSmQSdBUyKkgUQuUbgnhQb3TQXo=; b=AuC1gIUqiV7i9oOC4GpvF0xdppca3dPDnpHOH9VtzZlCgEAK2NdZ5XXAFAezPNXLtR 5HdoGIyMmN/SKQxIRHu3wOPKLVCNifQYQdiVfUPP0Av3F5b4bgMLsBZ8QCFy8jbJY5MF VyqxfLaLYZpQAH4nHjGQMzG4NodTv0B5JFuFPFy8O9l1pwaMljDpcGdYTYlzlnJb4utn MzbLjDx9wgRPBkE9ww45duQ1cq5rX+xgaqL4XGtjVMqW+VZGrMsfdR+yu0CBvrRql2MJ LIwIMg8o1iphbQ5jwHOHelBhWHN5vTbegde+DmNfL3DR1s5L+Hb404cQeFov8VEA8sD6 Ujzg== X-Received: by 10.112.98.198 with SMTP id ek6mr34780561lbb.22.1408458905352; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.152.120.36 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:34:25 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173763 Archived-At: > From: John Yates > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:24:28 -0400 > In-Reply-To: <043EC533-79C5-4C55-9CD1-C5FE9A6CB075@swipnet.se> > Message-ID: > Too old to have played with Lego as a child. My equivalents were Lincoln > Logs, Tinker Toys and especially Erector Set. I had Lincoln Logs, Tinker Toys, Erector Sets, *and* LEGOs growing up in the 70's. Also had LEGO gears. > By the time I became a father Lego had appeared[.] Both my daughter and my > son received many Lego sets. My neighbors had more than me, so I vowed when I had kids that there would be no such thing as "too many LEGOs." > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 04:40:12 -0400 > In-Reply-To: <87tx5ackpk.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> > Message-ID: <20140818084012.GA21644@thyrsus.com> > Tassilo Horn : >> ... here in Germany that's probably the most common toy after teddy >> bears, so I wouldn't look for some correlation between playing LEGO and >> becoming a hacker or engineer. > > Interesting. Legos aren't quite that common in th the U.S., and > *are* commonly thought to be something you give your kid if you want > to encourage engineering tendencies. And hacking. My first exposure to programming at MIT was a student mini-course on Lisp. Many LEGO metaphors were proferred. I have two sons. They had oodles of LEGOs. Both went to MIT. I'm convinced LEGOs helped. #1 son studied Aero-Astro, focused on UAS auto-pilot software and is a Java hacker in Cambridge now. #2 is in his senior year studying MechE.