From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joe higton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10688: The default mode for Perl should be cperl-mode instead of perl-mode Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:42:09 +0000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328116051 21096 80.91.229.3 (1 Feb 2012 17:07:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 17:07:31 +0000 (UTC) To: 10688@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 01 18:07:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RsdeU-0002UA-W7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:07:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33252 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsdeU-0008JO-9H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:07:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41138) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsdTF-0002wc-Rj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:55:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsdTA-0003Rx-4K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:55:45 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45779) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsdTA-0003Rq-2h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:55:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsdTV-0003hn-N9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:56:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: joe higton Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 16:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10688 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.132811535114225 (code B ref -1); Wed, 01 Feb 2012 16:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2012 16:55:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsdTK-0003hN-Ch for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:55:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40889) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsbOv-0000LG-T4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:43:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsbOR-0006ab-5v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:42:43 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:60978) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsbOR-0006aX-4R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:42:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39314) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsbOM-0000bO-Ni for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:42:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsbOI-0006Z9-PT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:42:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:44985) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsbOI-0006Yy-Mz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:42:30 -0500 Original-Received: by ggnu2 with SMTP id u2so749609ggn.0 for ; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:42:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8AAIFEKK0hwHCnrAoKLW7qGKgOgP+EQSvchA/a7Dpws=; b=SUmQW/W2olOIcjh+8+svYFAwplxHiXEd6c2IZA4Kau0AaFcqLknln83h5yt8JJkRql C+GRYzE7fFxRGkFzyV40s7brOM++B1CDWvGD0ENZvAsAPLBLJBriUgv9kgWOi0ITXjms gmQnIs5IGwURwSj5nCOHfZbKo5OrwyTVfXujc= Original-Received: by 10.182.76.135 with SMTP id k7mr39520075obw.62.1328107349235; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:42:29 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.182.176.38 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 06:42:09 -0800 (PST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:55:49 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:07:20 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:56351 Archived-At: Hi, Essentially "cperl-mode" has long surpassed "perl-mode" within the Perl community. The fact that perl-mode is the default is a barrier to encouraging emacs use within the Perl community. I was informed that I should post this as a bug here after I made the following enquiry to the emacs developer mailing list: "As an emacs evangelist in the Perl community I like to give peopleadvise on how to get started using emacs for Perl development.Unfortunately step 1 is to tell them that whilst the standard emacsperl-mode isn't very good, it can be easily be swapped for the vastlysuperior cperl-mode via a quick modification to their .emacsfile... Getting them start hacking around in their configuration filesisn't always the best start for people who are trying emacs for thefirst time. After a recent debate on the Perl subreddit I thought I'd come and atleast ask the question: What are the chances of changing the defaultemacs mode for Perl to cperl-mode? I realise that changing such thingsfrom underneath users is probably something which you don't undertakelightly, but cperl-mode seems to be mature and also the establishedfavourite with developers, so I'd say there is a strong case for this." If this was the wrong follow-up course of action I apologise. Thanks, Joe