From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Trey Jackson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Emacs 24.4 and advice Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:26:17 -0700 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c30666041b270506a65725 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1414775313 14663 80.91.229.3 (31 Oct 2014 17:08:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:08:33 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 31 18:08:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XkFgY-000540-Gb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:08:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39529 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XkFgX-0004m6-UK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38180) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XkEI1-0005p8-JG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:39:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjsYF-0004sQ-Qe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:26:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pd0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236]:54525) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjsYF-0004sJ-J7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:26:19 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id fp1so5476091pdb.13 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:26:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9YohpBxi7AaJXVwPH9bZVkZxjHoErdl0co1qSutTI3I=; b=Yuvvf1FJeDnf3F04mbCBk9F+m15T962tM/FZsvbDsQ+MD9BPd0qGgZ2eeOT1xiowWN 34X4iCglsAk53i/UdPqIiiG84RHZeFtoKpEha62kvQ890jE377o/eR5kdDHDKsR6xHZo hFwvXFgd8zQDoVp4Ggkib9HXQqUiNk1A/QbDEGf5HBJGX8sRz6DEaAf1r+3no0A7oKQ8 21v+woQLe5lwkP90YLntRu2tcjk04hRaWpo/J6PYR+C6xdFHrlDfH15I97olBOxfnvS4 n9mvPujNa3MWDBdtRzYMfAU1T+Vd8Vp1bYMEEQS4uKEh5Bu11v7WBfMpsCKYAhRwR/Jn RmHw== X-Received: by 10.66.139.106 with SMTP id qx10mr5395494pab.138.1414686377774; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.70.123.230 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:26:17 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176093 Archived-At: --001a11c30666041b270506a65725 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All, I just downloaded Emacs 24.4 and found that the function 'ad-start-advice was no longer defined. I looked at the NEWS - no mention of the function being deprecated. I looked at the "documentation" (comment section in advice.el) and all references to start/stop had been removed. I looked through the past year and a half of the devel mailing list - and the only subject line that contained advice was the request to not remove advice documentation. I'm not reporting this as a bug, because I can just update my code to work around this, but I do think that the changes made to this package could have been handled more gracefully. Whatever you think of people (over)using 'advice, the 'ad-start-advice and 'ad-stop-advice were a part of the tutorial and documentation in 24.3. TJ ps. This is my default signature, I didn't customize it for the purpose of this post. -- Trey Jackson bigfaceworm@gmail.com "Like any truly useful program, `hello' contains a built-in mail reader." -- GNU's Bulletin, July 1996 --001a11c30666041b270506a65725 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,

I just download= ed Emacs 24.4 and found that the function 'ad-start-advice was no longe= r defined.

I looked at the NEWS - no mention of the funct= ion being deprecated.
I looked at the "documentation&quo= t; (comment section in advice.el) and all references to start/stop had been= removed.
I looked through the past year and a half of the de= vel mailing list - and the only subject line that contained advice was the = request to not remove advice documentation.

I'm not = reporting this as a bug, because I can just update my code to work around t= his, but I do think that the changes made to this package could have been h= andled more gracefully.


Whatever you think of people = (over)using 'advice, the 'ad-start-advice and 'ad-stop-advice w= ere a part of the tutorial and documentation in 24.3.

TJ

ps. This is my default signature, I didn't custo= mize it for the purpose of this post.
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