From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: source liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: problem repeat entry for a number Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:34:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87pqcp0yec.fsf@mithlond.arda> <874ntzh5zu.fsf@gnuvola.org> <87vcmffp6t.fsf@gnuvola.org> <87mx7mqda4.fsf@gnuvola.org> <874ntskcch.fsf@gnuvola.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1331652908 756 80.91.229.3 (13 Mar 2012 15:35:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Thien-Thi Nguyen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 13 16:35:07 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Tkb-0004lY-FY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:35:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50768 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7TkX-00083r-0D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:34:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60772) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7TkM-00083L-6K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:34:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7TkD-00069m-DP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:34:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:53977) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7TkD-00069b-6n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:34:37 -0400 Original-Received: by ggeq1 with SMTP id q1so845066gge.0 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:34:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KN2BaMsSrU3aFnn6/d5OByI2AndTD9iWAyt9v4RWvpo=; b=VvKFRUZ8wadfWgT3At7HZYuVba+p8X3UQNY5kNS+HiwDDX2WMchezGdt03hR8nDrII mocseplmGg+wq/7zEVlVOph1zvqEQ7Hue1aSSl+bjnYYYohq3ilaDEkMfxToIo/YqMKE T8mK9iG3LENn+CThiM+d3nHsgMBIWEoFMhreN5CoPC3JNDU6CQUToUg6XgEsdKdHiOIW Q4ksJ788dL4H7GXQ/vG8a/hg5URhmDxyr/4g5ZD01i/GB6lSu6OLnbbD1/1Qg/erifA/ lErG60OH3jXBd9zaH3IZLGmXVJ3yGHmIIqNoor4mBN9XJqb9bmSMt4gd6fh5pqjzfNAB VIYw== Original-Received: by 10.68.129.70 with SMTP id nu6mr6619141pbb.89.1331652874888; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.143.58.4 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:34:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <874ntskcch.fsf@gnuvola.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.161.169 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:84022 Archived-At: > So, back to the real problem: Is there anything you would > suggest to the Emacs hackers for the purpose of improving the > text so that it expresses well (unambiguously and in good style) > the _correct_ description (the first way) of the behavior? A mistake can rise up in any different aspects, while a correct one have few choice. :) In my point of view, maybe shorter sentences, more itemized threads for those none English native speakers like me, will lead to fewer misunderstanding. yet it may not keep the manual threads simple and brief any more. Honestly speaking, after your explanation, i realize it was my fault failed to read the sentence correctly this time. I think I understand the expression, but I still have a question on, is there any case of "C-u" following a minus sign? C-u , here num is either negative or positive, there is no minus sign at the end of the argument. 1. here one cant type C - u '-' to get the minus sign as the end ( in this case '-' would be char layout in the buffer). 2. C-u '-' ( the only available case i can figure out, but i think it is meaningless) , also, type C-u again just start another instant of num argument input, still different from the case that terminate the argument input. (though in minibuff C-u - C-u, but i can't see any difference between single C - u here) so, i wonder why 'the minus sign' appears in the very sentence. as a result, "C-u following the digits ends the argument." is enough, unless someone can show me the necessary of "minus sign" here I wont be afraid to make another mistake next time if there are any chances., :) btw, are you one of those so called "emacs hacks"? cool!! Thanks again for you patience. -- Liu An Institution of modern physics, Shanghai, China