From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Freer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Eye strain and ergonomics Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:01:06 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87r4ezdiiy.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87r4ez92ry.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87txjv7gen.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87r4ey3jjd.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3kqnup9.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87fvvdafim.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <878v158jcd.fsf_-_@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374177682 28084 80.91.229.3 (18 Jul 2013 20:01:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Emanuel Berg To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 18 22:01:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UzuOA-0007LL-LO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:01:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53648 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UzuOA-000882-5a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UzuNx-00087P-BW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:01:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UzuNv-00027Q-SN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:01:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::236]:51857) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UzuNv-00027A-Mf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id kx10so3604910pab.13 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:01:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WGbdjr1NGc15bY3qut5NoizwYGIhkYxSmtKj6q67ShI=; b=nyZZW/PJxBwIPisdRM6fQZQhB72wXfo/Pt/JlaHmUfrvOHT1Tjc+HHIv29r8H9hfsz OFeX11GgXTcE4vMckbJ89IT9hwgtTD/csSryRlMSsZITuxTyMv3p/6CR0xB305Ak9GuM KlPm6G3y8mYToBBP2k1pZbe0jYnAsY3ft+esCLHbgoNg/e6bic3CcdqM+pN9hwvxJoAy J1MeJVbmalegAprB7Lj1JGi8/xDr+iCCRPoh/1CI2t+Fpvd091xty1n18EVLUOhQyr1r u6YwLZhNpIxEH97lN7vE+dMb8rL6YrtqyhV35lqDb4DBwUncApNGYMV4d1JZO0955lHM mmtg== X-Received: by 10.68.223.225 with SMTP id qx1mr13549540pbc.157.1374177666176; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.68.143.72 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:01:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878v158jcd.fsf_-_@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::236 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92240 Archived-At: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > Emanuel Berg writes: > >> That, but people are very different. Not all people get all >> problems, no matter what they do. The human body is a biochemical >> machine, and it is not exactly "real time" in terms of >> predictability. Your reasoning holds *in general* but there is >> nothing to say it must hold for every single person or pair of >> eyes. > > Yes, naturally. But a person would do well not to deny that such a > tendency exists. > >> If you can, try a projector. That way, you must keep your spine >> straight, and head up. This will also benefit your posture >> AFK. But twelve hours - that's a lot. > > I don't think I'll be able to, in the near future. For the time being, I > try to make up for it with a large monitor, placed on the same level as > my head. FWIW I have used computers for 8 hours per day plus for over 20 years now. I have had no problems with eye strain or otherwise, and have always had the monitor at head height. I have ALWAYS used a CRT monitor as laptops i am sure do cause eye strain problems. Both my brother and sister use computers and have had to wear glasses for sometime now. james