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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Alexander Miller <alexanderm@web.de>, yyoncho <yyoncho@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Questions about throw-on-input
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 10:32:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkTmvkR2vY2+5kGGead_CE3KUFTUokCXm8ihcwjnO0uSDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k11f7v4q.fsf@gnu.org>

Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 16:44 Uhr schrieb Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
>
> > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, yyoncho@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Alexander Miller <alexanderm@web.de>
> > Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 00:33:01 +0200
> >
> > In my ideal world all that stuff could be done non-blockingly in another
> > thread as much as possible, only needing to surface to the main UI
> > thread to make actual changes like inserting text/overlays/text
> > properties.
>
> Your ideal world seems to be based on an editor design that is very
> different from what Emacs is.  The absolute majority of objects which
> an average Lisp program manipulates are globally visible -- buffers,
> windows, frames, global variables, the obarray, etc., and doing that
> in non-blocking ways is not really trivial.
>

And that's what I'd call one of the biggest problems in current
Emacs's design. Much of the development in programming practices over
the last few decades has been moving away from global mutable state,
in order to increase robustness and predictability, and also to make
concurrency without subprocesses possible.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-14  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-10 13:47 Questions about throw-on-input Alexander Miller
2020-05-11 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 15:21   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 16:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 17:27       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 17:39         ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-11 18:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 18:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-11 19:48             ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-11 20:14               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-12 22:33                 ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-13 14:43                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-13 18:47                     ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-14  8:32                     ` Philipp Stephani [this message]
2020-05-14 14:23                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 14:37                         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-14 16:56                       ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15  3:21                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15  3:54                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15  8:19                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 15:45                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 16:46                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-15 17:31                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 17:50                                     ` yyoncho
2020-05-15 18:44                                       ` Alexander Miller
2020-05-15 18:55                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 19:46                                         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-15 18:00                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-15 17:35                                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 19:47                                 ` chad
2020-05-16 11:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-12  2:39           ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-12 14:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-11 18:17         ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-09 13:09 Alexander Miller
2020-05-10 11:11 ` yyoncho
2020-05-07  7:31 Ivan Yonchovski
2020-05-07 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-07 14:28   ` Ivan Yonchovski
2020-05-07 21:11   ` yyoncho
2020-05-08  1:58     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08  4:36       ` yyoncho
2020-05-08  4:43         ` yyoncho
2020-05-12  4:15       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-08 10:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 11:23       ` Ivan Yonchovski
2020-05-08 11:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-08 11:55           ` yyoncho
2020-05-08 14:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-08 18:04           ` yyoncho
2020-05-07 13:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 15:36   ` Ivan Yonchovski

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