From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Philipp Stephani Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24995: 25.1; Emacs manual: no doc on "bracketed paste mode" Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:11:19 +0000 Message-ID: References: <6f46675c-658e-4036-b03e-252a52170bc6@default> <83oa10z3o1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1148d9fea6904a0544be6922 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1482959537 18196 195.159.176.226 (28 Dec 2016 21:12:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24995@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 28 22:12:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cMLW2-0003UL-NO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 28 Dec 2016 13:11:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83oa10z3o1.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:127531 Archived-At: --001a1148d9fea6904a0544be6922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Eli Zaretskii schrieb am Mo., 28. Nov. 2016 um 04:25 Uhr: > > From: Philipp Stephani > > Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 21:11:36 +0000 > > Cc: 24995@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > I do think it would be nice to let users disable use of this > > > feature, even if the terminal supports it. Since we do that > > > with other xterm extensions (see xterm-extra-capabilities), > > > we should probably offer the same level of control for this > > > capability, either as part of getSelection, or as a separate > > > feature. > > > > Clearly. > > > > If Emacs can suddenly start supporting it then Emacs can > > provide a way to turn it off (it was, in effect, off before). > > > > > Philipp, would you like to add this on the emacs-25 branch? > > > > Yes, thank you. > > > > There shouldn't be any need for turning off bracketed pasting. It's just > a separate input key sequence that is > > either sent or not sent by the terminal emulator. This isn't different > from e.g. the Hyper key; there's also no > > option to disable the latter. > > That is true, but we still allow the user to control the other similar > extensions, which all fit your description. So why should support for > bracketed paste mode be different? It's inconsistent, and I can't > think of a reason why we would want this inconsistency. > I don't think that inconsistency is a strong enough reason to introduce a customization option, especially for a setting that has no user-visible behavior. There are certainly several other optimizations in the the Emacs code base that can't be turned off. --001a1148d9fea6904a0544be6922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Eli Za= retskii <eliz@gnu.org> schrieb am= Mo., 28. Nov. 2016 um 04:25=C2=A0Uhr:
> From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 21:11:36 +0000
> Cc: 24995@debbugs.gnu.org
>
>=C2=A0 > I do think it would be nice to let users disable use of thi= s
>=C2=A0 > feature, even if the terminal supports it. Since we do that=
>=C2=A0 > with other xterm extensions (see xterm-extra-capabilities),=
>=C2=A0 > we should probably offer the same level of control for this=
>=C2=A0 > capability, either as part of getSelection, or as a separat= e
>=C2=A0 > feature.
>
>=C2=A0 Clearly.
>
>=C2=A0 If Emacs can suddenly start supporting it then Emacs can
>=C2=A0 provide a way to turn it off (it was, in effect, off before). >
>=C2=A0 > Philipp, would you like to add this on the emacs-25 branch?=
>
>=C2=A0 Yes, thank you.
>
> There shouldn't be any need for turning off bracketed pasting. It&= #39;s just a separate input key sequence that is
> either sent or not sent by the terminal emulator. This isn't diffe= rent from e.g. the Hyper key; there's also no
> option to disable the latter.

That is true, but we still allow the user to control the other similar
extensions, which all fit your description.=C2=A0 So why should support for=
bracketed paste mode be different?=C2=A0 It's inconsistent, and I can&#= 39;t
think of a reason why we would want this inconsistency.

I don't think that inconsistency i= s a strong enough reason to introduce a customization option, especially fo= r a setting that has no user-visible behavior. There are certainly several = other optimizations in the the Emacs code base that can't be turned off= .=C2=A0
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