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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
Cc: "Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer" <taylanbayirli@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 06:40:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkR68y+XWFGsLBsdDGZF+QigS21Vo6OzRRMN7HdHv3uVCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv8udptlab.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

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Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> schrieb am Sa., 18. Apr. 2015 um
19:17 Uhr:

> Maybe a solution is to simply make customize-set-variables lazier, so
> that variables with a :require see their setting delayed to after
> package-initialize was called.  Or else, have package-initialize be
> called by customize-set-variables.  Or...
>
>
I would prefer one of these options over the other discussed in this
thread. package.el and custom.el are now both part of Emacs, so there's no
break in abstraction if they know about each other. It would make custom.el
more complicated for the benefit of the users (who can stop worrying about
the correct initialization order), which I think is a good tradeoff.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-19  6:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-18 12:25 Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-04-18 13:32 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-18 14:24   ` Nic Ferrier
2015-04-18 15:16     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-04-18 17:35       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-18 18:25         ` Nic Ferrier
2015-04-18 18:48           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-18 15:11   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-04-18 17:16   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-18 17:56     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-18 18:16       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-04-18 18:32         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-19  0:24           ` Drew Adams
2015-04-19  0:38             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-18 18:24       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-18 18:32         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-19  8:19           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-18 18:04     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-04-18 18:23       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-19  3:07       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-19  6:44       ` Philipp Stephani
2015-04-19  8:11         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-18 22:37     ` chad
2015-04-19  6:40     ` Philipp Stephani [this message]
2015-04-19  8:04       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-20  0:43         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-20  7:54           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-04-20 12:42             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-20 14:31               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-04-20 16:01                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-20 17:29                   ` chad
2015-04-20 18:38                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-20 19:40                       ` chad
2015-04-20 19:07                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-20 15:19               ` Mark Oteiza
2015-04-27  9:52               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-04-27 11:03                 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-04-27 14:01                   ` Drew Adams
2015-04-27 12:32                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-27 14:10                   ` Drew Adams
2015-04-27 14:15                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-27 14:36                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-04-27 12:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-27 13:43                   ` Andy Moreton
2015-04-27 15:46                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28 10:11                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-28  7:25                     ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-28  7:39                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-28  7:42                         ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-28 14:54                           ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-04-28 16:46                             ` Drew Adams
2015-04-28 17:29                               ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-04-28 18:52                                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-29  1:20                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28 15:32                           ` raman
2015-04-29  8:25                           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-04-28 15:26                       ` raman
2015-04-27 14:13                   ` Drew Adams
2015-04-27 14:46                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-04-27 15:15                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-27 15:52                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28  0:30                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-29  8:01                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-04-29 13:09                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28  0:25                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-04-12 12:09 Jorgen Schäfer
2015-04-12 14:26 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-12 14:45   ` Jorgen Schäfer
2015-04-12 20:46     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-12 14:40 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2015-04-12 16:23   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-12 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-12 21:02   ` Jorgen Schäfer
2015-04-12 23:22     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-13 22:52       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-13 22:49     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-11 23:10 Vasilij Schneidermann
2015-04-12  1:00 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-12 16:46   ` Mark Oteiza
2015-04-12 19:43     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-12 20:05       ` Mark Oteiza
2015-04-12 20:28         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-12  3:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-12  9:58   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-12 12:02     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <20150412082125.GA490@odonien>
2015-04-12 10:07     ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2015-04-12 10:28       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-03-30 19:01 Artur Malabarba
2015-03-30 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-31 10:52   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-03-31 12:34     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-18 10:46   ` Ted Zlatanov
2015-03-31  8:53 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-03-31 10:55   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-03-31 12:29   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-31 12:48     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-03-31 13:19     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-03-31 13:47       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-03-31 14:03         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-03-31 14:56           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-01  6:04             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-03-31 14:51 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2015-03-31 15:40   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-03-31 20:46   ` Stefan Monnier

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