From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philipp Stephani Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Remote asynchronous processes Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:01:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87tv1nwuv4.fsf@gmx.de> <87sgh6zbfo.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40331"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Michael Albinus , Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 04 19:05:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k30NS-000AOv-Rv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 19:05:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45682 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k30NR-0003iB-Qb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 13:05:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k30Jr-00074P-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 13:01:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ot1-x332.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::332]:44265) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k30Jp-0005Tj-D3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 13:01:42 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-x332.google.com with SMTP id h22so1862126otq.11 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 10:01:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ll3okpPWflbonNFhdLLj7STi8UruFr+u0F1SfhMmALk=; b=CR/j9WO6JQxdlCNdoV9edV9xcSGVIF9LZ42E7EJW/G7/ncAmf7R8v6kEa+3V6i9J4R g9JSDYRK/nzBbKwhTIaYiouOpFZV9n81v+7ifkn1/vXp/pQgHixJKutl9WKnu8QBvKor ywEGFNqgXfM3zdEGGJfS8v2l0eCTDylAhoP8w/XqjNuV6eCt80EpAI/nU7R9x2WCNaby tTAPcKHNVMjgZt2Z4gE3JITkKBnrCoUKc1YEbBlcIc9gVzY9LWky/DLxSnFlzVYvbC+/ CpHpS2U0mTT5yID9Cs05aqlvhMtbol4xo5s9G92QxQc6l4yYMEtMA/kX4/TgfYHKwRgF Gv5g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ll3okpPWflbonNFhdLLj7STi8UruFr+u0F1SfhMmALk=; b=IF7RrcJoB/KyIB4ZGVnk/iU2SsB9XYyLwTKxjQFnt7Yb4UcosVRsOPZhylhj2mLFUb cc+PmTCX24Yr0H6bY5uaj3zEOTwFxkciH79BOicuM7NKFpqGtM6v6zub4jAjoCJtAw+o HQqfNYDiFC2QBG8KTcGL9w37SltCmIg18LO76MugGCiQ0+lg8TBjHrYeRT4IsEp3NrHy 5a8tFZiu3uqvlWxmtCQItMNHgrMaG9VTp0CIDTDBp2KjnCFTrptTj9z+zTgpjZeN2L1m 0brRv2IjlTSBONSVOJ4wSvyt4NSzBk+IK7UQTm3rdvJNvlhxWFYCG461lb6p6iCzdRjX 5utQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532MVyC/7qGsFVfSl/yKCDeYf5CGJ8Avim0L5MOY2+Q2mNf3uH2g Fc+hVLs8vWdhr3LdbYfCX4ZETesqfXWTFK2XjEY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzAhS4AfoIKVISoAxGCQM5JklLUmB0YRQ0aYoWADzQ0Yx4f8+ejlGb2u8risCMbyI1sns+USUNyb7f4JGgL8c4= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:170c:: with SMTP id i12mr18202078ota.36.1596560499900; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 10:01:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::332; envelope-from=p.stephani2@gmail.com; helo=mail-ot1-x332.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253441 Archived-At: Am Di., 14. Apr. 2020 um 16:48 Uhr schrieb Stefan Monnier : > > > However, we will loose features of remote asynchronous processes. At > > least (and not comprehensive), processes started via make-process > > > > - are not checked for passwords or other interactive dialogues > > - do not not support multi-hops anymore > > - cannot be killed via interrupt-process (??? I'm not sure) > > - do not tell the remote tty > > - ... > > How 'bout a user-config setting? It's not really something that depends on user preferences, but how processes are used: a noninteractive background process has very different requirements from an interactive foreground one.