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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	Nicolas Petton <nicolas@petton.fr>,  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Making DOC argument of define-minor-mode optional
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 21:13:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkQadt3LTCeUJEKMNqHok5=XNxpC_pAaGuDRipjXY+W8Kw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41b59c33-1be1-440e-a9b1-efb97c6e14a8@default>

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Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> schrieb am Mi., 23. Nov. 2016 um
17:35 Uhr:

> > >> the docstring created by define-minor-mode with nil DOC is useful
> > >> and often better than what users write.
> > >> Should DOC therefore be optional?
> > >
> > > Not sure we would like to educate Lisp programmers to stop
> > > thinking about good doc strings.
> >
> > I agree.
>
> Me too.  And definers of user-facing things, such as
> defcustom and defface, do require DOC.  Other definers,
> such as defconst and defvar, do not require it.
>
> On the other hand, OP raises a real issue, I think.
>
> I'd be in favor of (somehow) automatically having the
> definer-provided DOC be augmented by a link that shows
> the generic `define-minor-mode' doc, or similar.
>
> IOW:
>
> 1. Definers should need to provide a DOC string (even if
>    they can fake it with "", which is not encouraged).
>
> 2. Users of the mode should have access to the generic
>    information also.  It should be sufficient that the
>    DOC in the definition provides mode-specific information.
>    It should not need to tell users general things about
>    using a minor mode.
>

That sounds like a good approach.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-27 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-23 10:04 Making DOC argument of define-minor-mode optional Philipp Stephani
2016-11-23 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-23 15:59   ` Nicolas Petton
2016-11-23 16:35     ` Drew Adams
2016-11-27 21:13       ` Philipp Stephani [this message]
2016-12-28 17:25         ` Philipp Stephani
2016-12-29  0:44           ` Drew Adams

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