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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 24372@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#24372: 25.1.50; After losing focus, cursor is hidden when moving point
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 16:11:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkQAdr=90UBCK=XYR3a954Lr4b7fcaoiky7ZuJeZe-qUXw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831t00mq6w.fsf@gnu.org>

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> schrieb am Sa., 1. Okt. 2016 um 10:25 Uhr:

> > From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:09:52 +0000
> > Cc: 24372@debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> >  > How about a variant of this below? It uses a fixed limitation from
> >  > below on the delay, but only for the first blink. (The value 0.2 was
> >  > found by experimentation, not sure if we need to add yet another
> >  > defcustom for that.)
> >  >
> >  > I don't think we should introduce magic numbers or further
> customization options.
> >
> >  It solves the problem, doesn't it? I don't mind very much if it were
> >  a defcustom, I just think no one would want to change it.
> >
> > OK, then it would be great to document the new behavior in the
> documentation of `blink-cursor-delay' and also
> > clarify what "starting to blink" means.
>
> Done.
>

Thanks!


>
> >  > > I've attached another patch with the change I have in mind.
> >  >
> >  > This has a disadvantage of creating a new timer object each time,
> >  > which I think we'd like to avoid: too much consing. (Also, don't you
> >  > need to set the timer variable to nil when the timer is disabled?)
> >  >
> >  > I don't understand - the patch doesn't create any additional timers,
> it only changes the initial delay of
> >  the
> >  > idle-timer.
> >
> >  Each time blink-cursor--start-timer or blink-cursor--start-idle-timer
> >  is called, they create a new timer, right? And your patch makes us
> >  call these functions each time blinking is started or ended, right?
> >
> > No, the other patch is that it restarts the timers when the
> customization options are set. Otherwise the options
> > only become effective after a focus-out/focus-in event or something
> similar that restarts the cursor.
> >
> >  > My patch is identical, except is uses blink-cursor-interval as lower
> bound.
> >
> >  Of course. That's why I said it's a minor variant.
> >
> >  There's another difference, though: in my patch we only limit the
> >  first argument to run-with-timer/run-with-idle-timer, not the second.
> >  So only the first blink cycle is affected.
> >
> > Doesn't that mean that the adjusted delay is applied only after the
> first command, but not after subsequent
> > commands?
>
> No, not AFAIK.  The idle time starts anew after each command.
>

Indeed, the repeat argument of run-with-idle-timer is only checked for
nil-ness and otherwise ignored. I'd suggest to pass something like :repeat
or t to that argument so that readers are less confused.


>
> Is there anything left to do about this, or can we close this bug?
>
>
The second patch (restarting the timers after the customization options
changed) is still open, what about that one?

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-01 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-05 19:16 bug#24372: 25.1.50; After losing focus, cursor is hidden when moving point Philipp Stephani
2016-09-05 21:29 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-09-06 16:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 15:59   ` Philipp Stephani
2016-09-09 16:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-09 16:20       ` Philipp Stephani
2016-09-09 16:29         ` Philipp Stephani
2016-09-09 17:18           ` Philipp Stephani
2016-09-09 18:59             ` Philipp Stephani
2016-09-10  7:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-11  9:15               ` Philipp Stephani
2016-09-11 16:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-11 17:37                   ` Philipp Stephani
2016-09-11 19:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-23 14:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-25 19:09                       ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-01  8:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-01 16:11                           ` Philipp Stephani [this message]
2016-10-01 17:29                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-01 18:10                               ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-02  7:12                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-01 18:16                             ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-02  7:14                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-02 17:56                                 ` Philipp Stephani

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