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From: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: pure-fns in byte-opt.el
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 07:31:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAArVCkQ02yOBuuB=ceDD8WV--XbttqzLXP2stv2ic61v+PuKSg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwveft0fbmj.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>

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Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> schrieb am Sa., 29. Juli 2017 um
00:21 Uhr:

> > So what is then the actual definition? Is it in the manual?
>
> The only definition I've seen just says that it means that the compiler
> can precompute the calls if it knows the arguments's values.
>
>
Can we find a definition that allows authors of functions to derive their
"pure" and "side-effect-free" status by only looking at their interface and
implementation? It seems like these attributes would both be useful for
documentation purposes as well as for optimization, and they have seen some
use outside of Emacs core (e.g. in dash.el), so their semantics should be
formalized and documented. How about something like this:

A side-effect-free function is one where all of the following is true:
- After exiting the function (whether normally or nonlocally), the
`match-data' are `equal' to the `match-data' before entering the function.
- After exiting the function, all dynamic variables, their default values,
their symbol cells, etc., are `eq' to the respective values before entering
the function. Exceptions are variables only used for debugging/tracing,
such as `cons-cells-consed'.
- All buffer contents, markers, point values etc. are
`equal-including-properties' to their previous values.
- The same buffers and threads still exist.

A side-effect-free-and-error-free function is one that is side-effect-free
and also doesn't signal any errors except `memory-full'.

A pure function is a side-effect-free function with the following
additional properties:
- The function recursively only accepts and returns numbers, symbols,
lists, vectors, hashtables, and strings; not buffers or processes since
they are naturally stateful.
- Two invocations with arguments that are pairwise
`equal-including-properties' (or, in the case of hashtables, have keys and
values that are `equal-including-properties') will either both exit
nonlocally or return values that are again `equal-including-properties'.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-24  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-25  2:06 pure-fns in byte-opt.el Mark Oteiza
2017-07-25  8:14 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-07-25 14:16   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-25 20:57     ` Philipp Stephani
2017-07-25 21:27       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-25 22:28         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-26  0:08           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-26  7:39             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-07-26 12:58               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-28 17:45         ` Philipp Stephani
2017-07-28 17:49           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-28 17:52             ` Philipp Stephani
2017-07-28 22:20               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-24  7:31                 ` Philipp Stephani [this message]
2017-09-24 16:23                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-25 22:06                     ` Richard Stallman
2017-09-26  0:25                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-25 19:53                         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-25 19:58                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-25 20:08                             ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-25 20:59                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-29 14:21                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-07-29 14:25                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-24 16:26                   ` Drew Adams
2017-07-26  1:00   ` Mark Oteiza
2017-07-26 14:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-27  2:36       ` Mark Oteiza
2017-07-27  2:46         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-29 16:43           ` Mark Oteiza
2017-07-29 17:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-29 19:48               ` Mark Oteiza
2017-07-29 20:03                 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-07-29 20:14                   ` Mark Oteiza
2017-07-27 17:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-28  0:24           ` Mark Oteiza
2017-07-28  7:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-29  1:24               ` Mark Oteiza
2017-07-29  7:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-29 16:34                   ` Mark Oteiza
2017-07-29 17:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-24  7:34                       ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-24 16:24                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-24 23:22                         ` John Wiegley

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