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From: Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com>
To: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
Cc: Emacs Help <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Counting SLOC in Emacs
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 08:36:03 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAjq1megfMUpxTqx6-fJRb8swT9zO6CON7LjLFSdoV-LbMmLLA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fvd2i5v6.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl>

DrRacket is a great place to run at whatever speed you want, training
wheels or not, in a safe and pleasant manner, too.

http://racket-lang.org/

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:49 AM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> wrote:
>
> On 2014-11-29, at 10:46, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote:
>
>> () Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
>> () Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:00:42 +0100
>>
>>    I'm planning to run a code reading seminar for some
>>    ambitious students at my faculty.  I'm wondering whether
>>    it could be a good idea to study this;).
>>
>>    (In fact, not really - at least not in the beginning -
>>    let them learn some more typical stuff before exposing
>>    young minds to Emacs Lisp with its peculiarities, like
>>    `interactive'.  We'll start with Python and JS, though
>>    some Common Lisp is also planned.)
>>
>> That's like "teaching" a child to walk one leg, the first
>> week, the other, the second, and together, only afterwards.
>>
>> Ugh; Not Recommended.
>>
>> Everything is peculiar in some respect.  If you choose those
>> of Emacs Lisp, your students may grind their teeth but they
>> will eventually learn some self-respect (and maybe some love
>> for parentheses :-D).
>
> I'm not sure if I get you.
>
> What I meant was: in this Elisp code, you have some really atypical
> things (from general programming point if view), like the tight coupling
> between the language and buffer (as a data structure).  Given that my
> students are beginners, some of them only exposed to really basics of
> programming, I don't want them to deal with too many new concepts at
> once.  I view it rather as teaching to walk the first few weeks, and
> only then teaching to run;-).
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
> Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
> Adam Mickiewicz University
>



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taking it seriously.” --Thompson



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-29 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-28 11:23 Counting SLOC in Emacs Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 13:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 14:04   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-28 14:31     ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 14:49       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-28 16:00         ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-29  9:46           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-29 11:49             ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-29 14:36               ` Grant Rettke [this message]
2014-12-02 20:43           ` Robert Thorpe
2014-12-02 22:10             ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]       ` <mailman.14877.1417186246.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-02 14:35         ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-03  1:14           ` Leo Liu
2014-12-30 14:05             ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-31 11:50               ` Leo Liu
2014-12-31 13:25                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 16:46 ` Phillip Lord

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