From: Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com>
To: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
Cc: Emacs Help <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Counting SLOC in Emacs
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 08:36:03 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAjq1megfMUpxTqx6-fJRb8swT9zO6CON7LjLFSdoV-LbMmLLA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fvd2i5v6.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
DrRacket is a great place to run at whatever speed you want, training
wheels or not, in a safe and pleasant manner, too.
http://racket-lang.org/
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:49 AM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> wrote:
>
> On 2014-11-29, at 10:46, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote:
>
>> () Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
>> () Fri, 28 Nov 2014 17:00:42 +0100
>>
>> I'm planning to run a code reading seminar for some
>> ambitious students at my faculty. I'm wondering whether
>> it could be a good idea to study this;).
>>
>> (In fact, not really - at least not in the beginning -
>> let them learn some more typical stuff before exposing
>> young minds to Emacs Lisp with its peculiarities, like
>> `interactive'. We'll start with Python and JS, though
>> some Common Lisp is also planned.)
>>
>> That's like "teaching" a child to walk one leg, the first
>> week, the other, the second, and together, only afterwards.
>>
>> Ugh; Not Recommended.
>>
>> Everything is peculiar in some respect. If you choose those
>> of Emacs Lisp, your students may grind their teeth but they
>> will eventually learn some self-respect (and maybe some love
>> for parentheses :-D).
>
> I'm not sure if I get you.
>
> What I meant was: in this Elisp code, you have some really atypical
> things (from general programming point if view), like the tight coupling
> between the language and buffer (as a data structure). Given that my
> students are beginners, some of them only exposed to really basics of
> programming, I don't want them to deal with too many new concepts at
> once. I view it rather as teaching to walk the first few weeks, and
> only then teaching to run;-).
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
> Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
> Adam Mickiewicz University
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-29 14:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-28 11:23 Counting SLOC in Emacs Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 13:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-28 14:31 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-28 16:00 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-29 9:46 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-29 11:49 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-29 14:36 ` Grant Rettke [this message]
2014-12-02 20:43 ` Robert Thorpe
2014-12-02 22:10 ` Marcin Borkowski
[not found] ` <mailman.14877.1417186246.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-12-02 14:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-03 1:14 ` Leo Liu
2014-12-30 14:05 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-12-31 11:50 ` Leo Liu
2014-12-31 13:25 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-11-28 16:46 ` Phillip Lord
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