From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Grant Rettke Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: using use-package Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 21:25:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20150805055619.13567.17B26335@ahiker.mooo.com> <17131863-cbb8-4a85-8470-490fe9a0c0d4@googlegroups.com> <66dceb24-5fef-4316-8c8b-e9a3e62b0fb8@googlegroups.com> <3594e2c6-bd02-412f-98df-9dd0f145277a@googlegroups.com> <01b4d996-aad3-44ff-a580-7950b25b7dc8@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439173556 21098 80.91.229.3 (10 Aug 2015 02:25:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 02:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Help To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 10 04:25:55 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOcmh-0007Nf-95 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2015 04:25:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56767 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOcmg-0000Zc-Fs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 22:25:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48285) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOcmT-0000ZH-Bb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 22:25:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOcmS-00074k-D1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 22:25:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]:34963) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZOcmR-00074U-Od for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 22:25:40 -0400 Original-Received: by wicne3 with SMTP id ne3so5290205wic.0 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 19:25:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gKOofjHlaXMIaI/zoSRGLg6Hbz5oFGnWBysNaqgARI8=; b=WeabU8P4GM/kLNHxiE6imG5sZQ2y+O5AGcQ9Dh9c3Bd7ekLuTdqPl+oglQxSrURkZ8 kgOQcgeMrdJtAwUwruy3RJh+0jIsNKMTmaqFQS3kZx6VwshJJrK7/SUEwb0hRnWt6Nr7 wFEp4rNv8761lqojb4MEZUWUK/4qzEmw3HxRcS/1QTRc1TCBQM5JgWDnof7HJY37n/GD a7HOViM14vOD+jCm5rIgCBrrZ7WQ5QSapUPTMT28bhCvYIMqOZ9O5FhzO6I+0rSa9jF8 3zBo4WQV7zjIQ1F2Ejw5LkTs3aprHBI6SzDBWIvJLSPKYR7b+ahoy7CA/fY45jrceCd/ 8ThA== X-Received: by 10.194.24.167 with SMTP id v7mr43241585wjf.37.1439173538928; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 19:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.27.179.134 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 19:25:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: VfjCilg5agjybmcysNolylbM50Q X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106428 Archived-At: On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > FWIW, lots of use-package is designed to work around flaws in packages. In my configuration it works around flaws in my understanding of how best to use EMACS and packages. Not confessing here, but use-packages forces me to question how I am doing it. Usually I see that I was doing it wrong. Knowing that it is a macro, and that is uses `package' underneath, you know that you can do it all without using `use-package'. Today I used `use-package' to create an autoload for `pp-display-expression'.