From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17589: 24.3.91; lisp/frameset.el Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 06:55:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <53843FF8.6040800@gmx.at> <53845749.1000706@gmx.at> <5384642E.5060000@gmx.at> <53848E86.1010301@gmx.at> <5384C7FE.9010005@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401252983 20183 80.91.229.3 (28 May 2014 04:56:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 04:56:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Arash Cue , 17589@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 28 06:56:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVuR-0004fN-TZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 06:56:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39490 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVuR-0004Bm-E3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:56:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56351) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVuJ-00041I-LM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVuE-0004yU-LM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:56:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVuE-0004yO-IL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVuE-0005ZG-7Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 04:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17589 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17589-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17589.140125295021377 (code B ref 17589); Wed, 28 May 2014 04:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17589) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 May 2014 04:55:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33922 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVu2-0005Yi-6g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:55:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yk0-f182.google.com ([209.85.160.182]:55782) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVu0-0005YT-1q for 17589@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:55:48 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yk0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 9so7902522ykp.13 for <17589@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 27 May 2014 21:55:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=tre2ftS7by/UNvLWICUJMDpzbyl8P2TAnFQMg0soMWA=; b=zNIt2S9KUTs0YZ8uP9a0rl0ss21PebtzZae2IsdHsZ2FvOVl/wV2xH1pDeUO+2+Q3z xaj5Bgskp3aW7ImeZEF1BXxwfUGp1JXcnc3nZG8UNyrNQh+c8yL1S681yVBPPB6wK1v8 toRoZrJfJ4O6PB+yzWvYHR9N96QwROtGNXF1D+f2+I+QNHRdlmta+QOB4RLnD+ZSoVy9 y9YcoYf6+TCk61ExjWvkpWGoaDj+lsyKUHiDYi8r1qSmuGxke/SuFV+OiHmUCpGrhmoW Ww/T8NV7cKXi1EjG/UHtNxCGG0eKEtp3FL8/5RgPUI/uc2RfeNQjx7bZhUgC4psxe8yl DDzg== X-Received: by 10.236.91.170 with SMTP id h30mr20273081yhf.143.1401252942375; Tue, 27 May 2014 21:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.170.127.66 with HTTP; Tue, 27 May 2014 21:55:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:89597 Archived-At: On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Or to always save window-state in a "non-writable" form, and then > provide a separate function to turn this into a writable form. If we > can always know right from the start if we'll write the window-state, > then we don't need that, but if we may sometimes need a window-state > which we may or may not later write to a file, then a separate function > would be needed. I thought of it, but then that "carries over" to framesets, and suddenly you need a function to make a frameset writable, as they would by default be non-writable (because, as this bug shows, you do not know beforehand if you will want to write a frameset or not). Very ugly, IMO. J