From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to restore the layout? Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 02:28:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <51C5AA68.4000204@alice.it> <51CC4CC1.3030202@alice.it> <51CC8403.1030009@gmx.at> <51CCA56A.8000508@gmx.at> <51CD49CF.1090103@gmx.at> <2FB4C583-960C-4DA8-8B2E-29DF8D96770E@swipnet.se> <51CD6324.2040504@gmx.at> <834ncifkq9.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjuae19s.fsf@gnu.org> <83r4fmdsw5.fsf@gnu.org> <85k3ldtion.fsf@member.fsf.org> <4E4C522D-DBCC-4133-A764-82C9CCE81E2D@swipnet.se> <8913208E-7FE2-41F5-AC93-000108413C47@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372638555 25490 80.91.229.3 (1 Jul 2013 00:29:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , Emacs developers , Stephen Leake To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 01 02:29:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UtRzX-0007Wr-Ct for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 02:29:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42827 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtRzX-0001pl-0U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:29:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57935) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtRzT-0001oo-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:29:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtRzR-0001AZ-6s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:29:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::22b]:57423) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtRzR-0001AV-0V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l10so1738251eei.30 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:29:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ab6+T/oGzRWcM08+OGwSqADhBDQzOmDBAdxQGSVMK6Q=; b=QKiBmPxBDDGYKb64WFMeQmRTJR7kHanJdNX8IlQxQNuUciHUcCzOTPV2R1zBmqhwXG PE1zWuKongAzIzLfuAJYdZ9NnWG3ghSS8cw/2tuoCdSYv2UbZp9E0Q6CGbiFIe+5He1X YfRqhNp/DmwQ9GZ9PR/Au+YkCBd0yBa5E1jXa+9PP2nWl57RrRQz5W/pGlySh0kx14vl SZsxbccEUgofm1IUCyRN0hM6iOti/VcUTB7NAPwQN8BSD+tJSPXCUn8wDWyg/qaiWNUv P9RBLsF3vpeSGEOEnPT/IfLkYBTJp5B8ySSvpHd/VtUmjgvM9g1iSALykbYifXowidkM MwMg== X-Received: by 10.15.76.71 with SMTP id m47mr18526673eey.70.1372638548274; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:28:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8913208E-7FE2-41F5-AC93-000108413C47@swipnet.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c00::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161391 Archived-At: On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote= : > I would expect that if a saved frame position is not available, the frame= would be recreated at some default position, i.e. let the window manager d= eside. > > If the position is available, I'd expect the frame to be recreated there = even if the size might no longer fit (the monitor is smaller). Some window = managers will resize the frame to fit, so Emacs should not bother to try to= fit the size. That's more or less what I'm trying to do, modulo detecting that "a saved frame position is not available". J