From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12682: 24.2.50; make server-execute less noisy Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 01:33:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <871ugufw1v@ch.ristopher.com> <51bofycsvo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87objv7g7g@ch.ristopher.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1350862523 26336 80.91.229.3 (21 Oct 2012 23:35:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:35:23 +0000 (UTC) To: 12682@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 22 01:35:31 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ53K-0005ms-Ju for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 01:35:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ53D-0006tK-8V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:35:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ53A-0006tE-H1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:35:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ539-0005JZ-Fl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ539-0005JV-CL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:35:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ54o-0000Hi-5x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12682 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12682-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12682.13508625761041 (code B ref 12682); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2012 23:36:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54732 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ543-0000Gj-U7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:36:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:64737) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ540-0000GV-Jc for 12682@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:36:13 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id dt12so1599792wgb.15 for <12682@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:34:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=nkhcC4hYFd5GGO0uAyuVKB0pyXyytHT/a7RWxvvSayQ=; b=l1Lj4xDBU8sfyTitFbgb0LdusEfN8t5s73he0BvPynntWLYB/J4Ee06Mk2BqS8xBrS D9aUCU/alBh8IPlYeq/UKTwBb23ZsORFTtX7zUB+VLXU6D9sTni9KzKs2pIrCzuh5pML 0W+/p4iNcQMy4wZpYRJPM00lZWbdKmBeFuP0EjcVDJTz4nXn5yrul9WNWnZ7RoPXl/w7 NQh1Gbw6iGv+UZ9ZtDNLbN01fSL8gSmbAEYt93r0zwJaQxDnZ8eJth8AwhiYArGgrm/z 9yIKeemocsjDLVTTyrk0ZJFsUycL79eVUX3eJsw0H7XOVxJp8Ms8y/XveJZqzFRheXvM lcNA== Original-Received: by 10.180.82.72 with SMTP id g8mr32316893wiy.20.1350862463519; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.223.62.204 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 16:33:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87objv7g7g@ch.ristopher.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:65829 Archived-At: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote: > There are other, useful messages in server-execute. A more > sophisticated advice is not trivial any more. Not very hard, anyway. > server-execute is an > internal, undocumented function. The message may be subject to change, > the form might be refactored to another function in future versions. I > would like to have a permanent solution. Fair enough. > There are many superfluous messages floating around, making my > *Messages*-buffer a pain to look at and my minibuffer a constant source > of distraction. I will not create feature requests for all these > messages. Right now, to me, it is just about this one and the one I > reported in bug 12370 because IMO these two provide absolutely no value > whatsoever. I suppose "superfluous" is in the eye of the beholder. I find the C-x # message a useful reminder (because I really rarely use emacsclient without --no-wait), and it seems like a newbie-oriented message anyway. > ...I am fine with wontfix. I haven't tagged it as wontfix, just stating my opinion. Someone is bound to differ, I suppose. > I guess a real solution to the underlying problem would be to attach a > log-level or a category-symbol to each message, with the user being able > to disable certain categories. I do realise this is quiet a demand and > there are lots of more important things to implement. I think both messages and warnings should have a customizable way to filter them out (with several criteria, from the very text of the message/warning to categories, etc). For warnings that already exists through the severity level, though it is pretty coarse. Juanma