From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Dialog from emacsclientw.exe must be dismissed (was RE: Best practices for launching Emacs on Windows 7/8) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:50:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372366266 604 80.91.229.3 (27 Jun 2013 20:51:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:51:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: "Ludwig, Mark" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 27 22:51:07 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UsJ9n-0000rl-92 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:51:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44975 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsJ9m-0002Gp-VP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:51:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44341) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsJ9P-0002Gj-Ry for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:50:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsJ9O-0005gP-Gi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:50:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ea0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c01::230]:59693) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsJ9O-0005gD-AR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:50:42 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f176.google.com with SMTP id z15so644862ead.7 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=0sQMK/BjhHNXDrk8vtWk/FEm5xyB5o21WjLUvWz0/hw=; b=s8PVJvToZ9voA/YTVdRoMApEJXphaPSf2Vju5rDI3eyuTvpM4b8DKCqMB91iNCyk+q 0Zde1fj5xDTJ/fIBH+m/6ESyhuseBtc3jasXqNKRkCX/wkicm6DKI4WlhDLCCIL2GEdX or2CUxYkfEOWP2ZNYKwafS0Dxr2X7vPIov1r+eJzAUw97Ydeh3zghDbA3bbDpu9D2RE4 qNY8M0Hbp1YLxpBCkPip85oUFFCM55uDJbgVHE0TFK9l8a5Kq5piwVHxpbsI/6dNDags mxfC40gYODwh36p2REp1my03NN2G4ANli0qJuosGG47LGRst7ZGpSYMnIFShldCRLe2p 1Hig== X-Received: by 10.15.76.71 with SMTP id m47mr10535586eey.70.1372366241508; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c01::230 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:91797 Archived-At: On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Ludwig, Mark wrote: > Consider that the non-windows version (emacsclient) does just this. > It will issue the error message to the console and, since it's > non-interactive, it will proceed to launch the alternate editor (if > any). User expectatives for a console program and a GUI one are quite different. > Sure, and I claim that this does still not change the uselessness of > waiting for the user to click OK before launching the alternate > editor. Let's say you're correct that somehow the server was > deactivated, and all you need to do is reactivate it. Nothing you do > in response to the dialog changes what will happen with that instance > of emacsclientw. No, it's the fact that you click on the dialog, which means that you saw the message. If it does not appear, or times out, perhaps you'll miss it. Waiting for the user to acknowledge that s/he read a warning is hardly something exclusive to emacsclientw.exe. > I certainly understand that my perspective is based on the fact that I > use alternate editor, but I didn't invent the concept; I'm just trying > to use it. I tend to think that the alternate editor is an error, but that's just me. Anyway, if you feel that the behavior is wrong, use M-x report-emacs-bug and file a bug report / enhancement request. Perhaps someone who shares your view will be prompted to act on it. Thanks, Juanma