From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14841: Frames created invisible have their visibility parameter set to t Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:01:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83a9ltun54.fsf@gnu.org> <837ggxukjt.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafx3wzz.fsf@gnu.org> <83txjpxue1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374325328 15003 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2013 13:02:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14841@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 20 15:02:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V0WnZ-0001Em-5A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:02:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49024 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V0WnY-0001hA-RH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:02:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58710) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V0WnU-0001gh-SB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V0WnT-0001MI-QI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:02:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44907) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V0WnT-0001Lg-MR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0WnS-000130-If for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:02:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14841 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14841-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14841.13743253174005 (code B ref 14841); Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2013 13:01:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0WnM-00012U-5t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:01:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com ([74.125.83.41]:47286) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V0WnH-00011e-OE for 14841@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 09:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d17so2902024eek.0 for <14841@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:01:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=XO0qPdquH6slJD1Jr9JfFOuo9KL4dzkzBYj/f6slmaY=; b=PNG/b/eXdyomCEXTXq4qSHNmeYK99nJgHzC+UH5FxA1pcuhV2qZe1dPSY016l4ViZb OsbBJRuRAKhkhZrl1PrbakytD3xA9K2qptK1WpDlzSDPjPjAtGanSk+gI9ivLkFLEEVI qAIg2xHWliMBO7AIX0u0EPX1w4/79yPxVLxW6/n1Cpzg6252cqXPwC4uzVHPakM6vGXt HHr0JbZm+qF9VGbicfj5EDJvgvcKg6mC7aWNaiz6vL1Mz9cNK7a/Z6DVVAy9uJVpXQP9 huEi6ttlo9tqjka6cQyehNPkQQUwbHOqi6ugeU/6+LDkLo0SE9UpT4drk5UhMOJMhZor Gmlw== X-Received: by 10.15.76.71 with SMTP id m47mr19933447eey.70.1374325305813; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:01:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83txjpxue1.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76529 Archived-At: On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> 1) A frame created via (make-frame '((visibility . nil))) is >> invisible, but elisp thinks it is visible. > > How do you see that? The example below clearly says "nil", not "t". I don't understand. This is exactly the original report: emacs -Q M-: (setq *f* (make-frame '((visibility . nil)))) M-: (frame-visible-p *f*) => t > I think this is to be expected (and unrelated to this bug). I said "two different bugs", so yes, unrelated. As for being expected, why?