From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14591: New keyword :local for defcustom Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 04:01:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1371088989 29943 80.91.229.3 (13 Jun 2013 02:03:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 02:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14591@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 13 04:03:08 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UmwsW-0000Ns-DT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 04:03:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56101 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UmwsW-0005Bi-2h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UmwsR-0005BQ-RQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:03:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UmwsR-0006HJ-3D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UmwsQ-0006HC-Vi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UmwsQ-0003AI-Nn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 02:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14591 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 14591-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14591.137108893412036 (code B ref 14591); Thu, 13 Jun 2013 02:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14591) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2013 02:02:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40228 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Umwrd-000384-NU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:02:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ea0-f179.google.com ([209.85.215.179]:54787) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Umwrc-00037l-Ec for 14591@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:02:12 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f179.google.com with SMTP id b15so6100514eae.38 for <14591@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:02:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=+ldordVTBj8nvvgOMQdnpNNE5gdxxMwuN03a9rAZt0k=; b=bZddbVhMtUq9y/OBlK90fl5y7hF5L/DEZ6lzPbPUhQgeOAzcpi9ttFhtDhDVdfAWui +5t5iV5G+QhgjVUDLCoJQD4zgPv3gjcnSAhGzz32OWW7HYPEq8p2s1RNpdcRILMDyZ8R AdMattdf8Z2h4qLd/0jy848W55MG0KG7TdjBlAUiKhcm3TRK4KTTg5Orumwaf2mN+fEf e1BMQM8xMZLe88WV1VJdKZ+F89Sej8sPTwioSb1hrx4Yak1VqxLrv8YiAaZGIkIS5yWd fUV2Rywlz1tLzluPJ0GfAFXQCrtOQ/aiVg2rqD/Xif6jkpqWuCwpTNNh81+lf9k9jCdU QoUg== X-Received: by 10.15.36.133 with SMTP id i5mr24292986eev.52.1371088926638; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:01:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75030 Archived-At: On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Problem is: most/all of those are in themselves problematic, because > Customize handles buffer-local variables very poorly. Well, yes, but a defcustom is just a fancy variable declaration plus an even fancier interface to setting it. Whether it makes sense for the variable to be automatically buffer-local or not is independent of it being a defcustom, as witnessed by the fact that there are already automatically buffer-local defcustom'ized variables in the sources. In other words: that customize handles poorly these kind of variables is a bug in Customize (and so, something to fix some day), not an intrinsic feature of these variables. J