From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:45:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87ipktag2e.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwfxtxuz.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87aa64ubg9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83boqkr9bp.fsf@gnu.org> <874nwcu17i.fsf@wanadoo.es> <834nwcr6un.fsf@gnu.org> <87vcosskhc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <831urgr2yr.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4zgsh2w.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ipks3zbo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87boqk3q69.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87aa634st8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fwfvsgfv.fsf@wanadoo.es> <877h17scdo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hb0b77nr.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739bvs27m.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325707396 18058 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 20:03:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 21:03:12 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiX3H-0000IJ-Dh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:03:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42487 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiX3G-0004oj-Ux for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:03:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59205) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiWmk-0004DZ-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:46:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiWmi-0005xX-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:46:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:49437) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiWmi-0005xG-Fy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:46:04 -0500 Original-Received: by pbdd2 with SMTP id d2so12724713pbd.0 for ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 11:46:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DixVFpz6f1IeDqjQGZtJ3/4BFyDuxyvKVQj95uHS248=; b=mTCUbNhdy5CwtmPpESHnryukLm3G4OCshjFpDdvtEtpRJ6C9FANKBSwCx2d41lp2RX lh4cf0xsa9KRVxWUd0yn/qrTsYXKJXrfXD/CI9LSl5wLNBZeaCN8lAWI1pt5z13Y47Q0 XgeB3uQmPsOC/9jj0bXx0Al6+z0mBm67AFZH8= Original-Received: by 10.68.75.132 with SMTP id c4mr120379537pbw.23.1325706363312; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 11:46:03 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.142.247.28 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:45:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8739bvs27m.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147290 Archived-At: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 20:21, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: > For a Windows binary package to be robust, it must be as self-contained > as possible. Quality-wise, one of the best decisions I ever made was to > distribute the C/C++ MS runtime dlls along with the rest of my binaries, > no matter they are already installed on virtually all MS Windows > machines. Certain long-standing, very nasty bugs simply went away. Assuming you're right, that seems like a wonderful side project. Why not start a project to build a prepackaged Emacs binary installer for Windows? Aside from installing DLLs, it could set up other things (after asking the user, of course), like CUA mode, and other binaries, like a better ftp than the standard one. I do really believe that a user-friendly installer for Windows is a good idea. I strongly *don't* believe the Emacs project should bear the load of it. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma