From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trunk still not open Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:07:46 +0100 Message-ID: References: <6xwqfxhl88.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83txb1mcsy.fsf@gnu.org> <87siqlku0i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wqfxari2.fsf@yandex.ru> <87ha70kyy3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <5323B66B.5070405@yandex.ru> <837g7vdg70.fsf@gnu.org> <768us8u6yb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5dk3brtscf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395162530 26695 80.91.229.3 (18 Mar 2014 17:08:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:08:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Dmitry Gutov , Stephen Turnbull , Emacs developers To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 18 18:08:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WPxVU-0004rj-62 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:08:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36514 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPxVT-0003jR-ND for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37879) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPxVL-0003ai-9q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:08:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPxVG-00007y-JQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:08:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yh0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c01::236]:41087) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPxV6-0008Ug-8w; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yh0-f54.google.com with SMTP id f73so7228548yha.13 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:08:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=EheV5GBkqDby0P4zpLOyBXB/+baMcTRtFvGcEwQv69w=; b=PQ4doBJvZx55eSkRKalsrmIz9NFrqlY3XilZ8iesjAxyZHezntiQR8HskiqCuzVFQ7 9oJt2D/tXyqcWlJ0h3L2Wcs3ZsYYIX21XKfRwZdxslviCNNFiw13CcwbIE9ylVhPLfIX 3iWP0RtYnDF5JXD49f15dsneE5C1iqtvo1cIPWpswoddWfHLaQuSORMLk3I+9VHM5vpF 91qItP4X5UuEpM0IzFL3mosL+phMItAq5kfKjzHDctH6ICekOzksZLhYz/1Ou9HBQVrG gFyLIuhSG70zIBcJ6GT/pH5yU+tqQwo/uv8ouhcl14fFZ3kknpJXwZkE5zs7JiyYd2zM PvSA== X-Received: by 10.236.91.67 with SMTP id g43mr2409388yhf.146.1395162507638; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.170.163.3 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:07:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5dk3brtscf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c01::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170485 Archived-At: On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Yes, I found it daunting when I tried to look at it! :) That's... good to know, I suppose? ;-) > (But also it convinced me you can write perfectly good English > documentation; not that I needed convincing.) Documentation can be extracted from me, in a process somewhat akin to fracking but not so nice, you mean. > You don't need to repeat all that info. > A brief definition of what a frameset is, and what you might want to use > it for, and then an overview of the main functions for creating, > manipulating them, etc. So that people know the concept exists and what > functions to look at to get started. As David just reminded us, is hard to do brief. I'll try. > So why hasn't everyone been making that their number one priority? > I can only assume it's because they thought "someone else will take care > of that". Or they just think they're not good at it? > There are also many bugs that need addressing. > First the "important" ones (several related to package.el), but also at > some point ideally anything filed after 24.3's release, or against > 24.3 or 24.3.50, should be reviewed. This is ~ 700 bugs. Although ~ half > of those are wishlist/minor. Yes, but fixing bugs shouldn't affect the (un)freezing; pretest is as good a time as any to fix bug. J