From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:30:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87hb0b3yoe.fsf@lifelogs.com> <6ED011D5-E185-44C6-BB31-A445A4E5F83A@gmail.com> <87wr976otx.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipkq6yy5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <3FB40138-C766-4A45-8E5A-4E404449995E@gmail.com> <546D7C22-520D-46A9-8AA1-9D33CF2F6782@gmail.com> <87obuhpqrl.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k455pncx.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87fwftpjqi.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zke02qg1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325928679 28437 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2012 09:31:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 09:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 10:31:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjScN-0000mf-3E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:31:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44516 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjScM-0004Jc-77 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 04:31:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54504) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjScJ-0004Ib-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 04:31:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjScH-0001fx-S1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 04:31:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:33401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjScH-0001fs-NK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 04:31:09 -0500 Original-Received: by pbdd2 with SMTP id d2so2022388pbd.0 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:31:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E+5W0sfstbeRyOx6LS7yW0jZFUsR86l4qt06tWkXTe4=; b=R6QGURei5TWclLd4md0co4UExEdOPRa/GyuL6uHfvlAK09KIhsXIx5dfkiPVnEtYm0 Sjgf9e3E7zZn3/xyldPVNjr5K7YTcMAhDUH2alNnJxtuRNq+HrFHu/6kfXMVVwj0UhL8 0fkiI61XzwTUymGAOPyJDslJiubX3E7sWNq24= Original-Received: by 10.68.73.234 with SMTP id o10mr22666766pbv.90.1325928668212; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:31:08 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.142.247.28 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 01:30:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87zke02qg1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147437 Archived-At: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 03:31, Stephen J. Turnbull wrot= e: > Did he reject such a system, or simply insist that it not be turned on > by default? =C2=A0I don't see how he can reject the system itself, if > somebody else volunteers to create and maintain it. =C2=A0Rejection is > different from what he actually said, which is that he thinks those > volunteers would be doing a better service for Emacs by developing > Emacs instead of trying to keep up with the security details (which > are normally not public, as you know) of an independent project. Right. I don't reject adding such a system, with a note in NEWS saying: "if you want automatic warning of updates, customize the variable `emacs-check-for-updates'"- However, I do fear that, once the system is in place, for 24.2 or 25.1 we will heard people say that the default should be t. (I'm leaving aside the issue of distributing binaries.) =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma