From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to restore the layout? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:12:20 +0200 Message-ID: References: <51C5AA68.4000204@alice.it> <51C9C790.3020407@gmx.at> <51CA0D4C.7080204@alice.it> <51CC3E42.7020409@alice.it> <51CC4CC1.3030202@alice.it> <51CC8403.1030009@gmx.at> <51CCA56A.8000508@gmx.at> <51CCA7DC.8060605@gmx.at> <83fvw2g44j.fsf@gnu.org> <857ghdti3i.fsf@member.fsf.org> <85ip0vsjo0.fsf@member.fsf.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372615999 23547 80.91.229.3 (30 Jun 2013 18:13:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 30 20:13:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UtM7h-000384-Hv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:13:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42593 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtM7h-0005uP-3h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 14:13:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49697) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtM7T-0005aC-M9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 14:13:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtM7R-00049l-Va for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 14:13:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ea0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c01::234]:42554) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UtM7R-00049H-Oq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 14:13:01 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f180.google.com with SMTP id k10so1652652eaj.39 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:13:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=4cgOvUMGQtRnJ1mp15l8+OpzDff0+ojlE9nnOJXIdA8=; b=ljIamDahRu4Z1BMU3kPKRliChRD8v3E9l536F6ZLyEzs7b0tY2N10UnilDG6RtEVhS 86K8USec38J8OO+XHdyQhf83vnGEMlO0Iq2v48+l6ZbTDgpCOclt/yihbAtq5yh0yRzV KieMePHmOguqAL2VkMLxyLc01ocjvD5FhFs8pUWWaTRPMhsd8tCUJ9WnkKAbkubkaHZH UtemqXzKZtE+jBVPG+J2aNRcDI1TFRLvxuerNmDmsyR9/HTJ9zHy0uu1/X4gNHrGm5Zv 14wGiXq8kjosIw26aM4VSuvS8K9fJzXFnWhwubu3zU+ZzHwm4X3vdgD7sMu/WDJbANrw uTPA== X-Received: by 10.15.102.68 with SMTP id bq44mr18118948eeb.89.1372615981104; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:12:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85ip0vsjo0.fsf@member.fsf.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c01::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161371 Archived-At: On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Stephen Leake wrote: > Can you elaborate? what is wrong with prompting the user from > after-init-hook? Is unexpected and rude. We have many packages that save & restore state, and none of them asks the user while Emacs is starting up. That does not mean that it can't/shouldn't be done, just that it should be an option for users who like that kind of interaction. I expect my Emacs to get to a fully usable status by itself, without my interaction. > The doc for after-init-hook says it is run "after initializing the Emacs > session". It does not mention displays, so I assume the default display > is available for prompting the user. Yes, I'm not talking about technical issues, but UI ones. J