From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master f225011: ibuffer-do-isearch: don't depend on `cl-values-list' (bug#38430) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 18:18:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20191201091356.26612.95511@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20191201091358.11752207E0@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <834kyjmm36.fsf@gnu.org> <8336e2n3fd.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003ada7d0598bbc7ae" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="258218"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Stefan Monnier , Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 02 18:20:44 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ibpNL-00152p-QC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 18:20:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40942 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibpNJ-0007gG-Iz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 12:20:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45283) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibpM0-0006CV-9h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 12:19:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibpLy-00044r-Of for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 12:19:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qt1-x82c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c]:46214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibpLu-0003vS-Fb; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 12:19:14 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qt1-x82c.google.com with SMTP id 38so424071qtb.13; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 09:19:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BAO44jVJtgu1z4HvKQf44bcqFu3EdWexQyej+vHaY/k=; b=UHbd6D7MvO3SiFqzHJb/NGajt3oX3dZf/8wX5h7GlNedxwh9s51wZy+x/ByuTnCIAj Jht2x6gKv8SWmz+C6IZkpIroslmKeTHsUAE7qEAooNvKZNXwsv+5UdwUnH8nPt/NM60G +CrcjU6Vi4B2jlGc55eSMUgbr1wb5XDDfaZolfmPWXntkRoUslG1/+O51V8OqoREhfQh zqQkW5ggbWPEWWowXs1N0/3rcrZMQ8fsjr6sxN+4qfhSbkoeGPvO8zcIe32WgF8G0yke YcfaEWxaflsi1rFtRPtw60FsjTfE7lu2eIA2IX17ZqEi6IcjCSAC1IKE5cIpQXVXQJ7m 1O7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BAO44jVJtgu1z4HvKQf44bcqFu3EdWexQyej+vHaY/k=; b=lO8EgkQlmf/E80YOtHTCmC49r0CJg1kG0s21lo94RMys1P+ccMVSFA5z0jmbQdrXeU qog6ZcCGOlgcUCr4V2MAJfRNg/isaPqqrHa7X1Q3lRxUFB0IM5esWpGg6VLO4oyABso5 6Ak7s7aGa2yYIXQsylqxqF922ydMqdBsZhMXUqMmYoCIe8E6KCzo5Ytz74tKDGKoHaPH HnFqsAOMAKmve1W1AS8HW4W8F+isShCsXo071uf3MAZVzJpOCcbzur0g6EQi0t6wZUc7 6N74wvmRj00zqebvv9lWSLzJi7OMWq9+AsLQiJnQZR2zYafBn3VSycHn4BZM9/Q3rkWp W8eg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUj27YGh36Zfkrm8SDxgBSdx4KfH/4EwYBJ+raho/5XSAmHBPaG 5e8lyw5xpJvoHACLBxlpJRmUiflmoCi5CmRIcb5IEQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxqJVKyBZ0dMY0PTRv8rBmEDHN7fEg/xqR4eX8sPKL97n2MEoK/DRpWikgQEBasQlPxhu/MpY0BHUMnHNCwf28= X-Received: by 2002:aed:2866:: with SMTP id r93mr394050qtd.354.1575307152381; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 09:19:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8336e2n3fd.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243009 Archived-At: --0000000000003ada7d0598bbc7ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:38 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Yes, we don't preload packages just because it's convenient. Oh, well, sorry I was unclear. I was not asking about that. I said that IMO we should preload cl-lib, but I know that's... unwanted. What I'm really asking is what is our stance regarding using cl-lib in lisp/*. I mean, are we trying to minimize run-time dependencies on cl-lib, or it is ok to use freely? TIA, Juanma --0000000000003ada7d0598bbc7ae Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:38 PM Eli Zaretskii <<= a href=3D"mailto:eliz@gnu.org">eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

>= Yes, we don't preload packages just because it's convenient.
Oh, well, sorry I was unclear. I was not asking about that. I said that I= MO we should preload cl-lib, but I know that's... unwanted.

What= I'm really asking is what is our stance regarding using cl-lib in lisp= /*. I mean, are we trying=C2=A0to minimize run-time dependencies on cl-lib,= or it is ok to use freely?

TIA,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma


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