From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 02:46:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87vcosskhc.fsf@wanadoo.es> <831urgr2yr.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4zgsh2w.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ipks3zbo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87boqk3q69.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87aa634st8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fwfvsgfv.fsf@wanadoo.es> <877h17scdo.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87hb0b77nr.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739bvs27m.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ty4b4329.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hb0b3yoe.fsf@lifelogs.com> <6ED011D5-E185-44C6-BB31-A445A4E5F83A@gmail.com> <87wr976otx.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipkq6yy5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874nw847lp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325900848 23621 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2012 01:47:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 01:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: chad , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 02:47:22 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLNS-0001x3-9g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:47:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44115 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLNR-0002t3-HJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:47:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLNO-0002si-NF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:47:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLNM-0004Gn-Ej for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:47:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:58307) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjLNM-0004GZ-6A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:47:16 -0500 Original-Received: by pbdd2 with SMTP id d2so1859434pbd.0 for ; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:47:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o5/nbuwOgDN+CKFKTWcyegsGI8kAehuroEzsAUKBN7w=; b=rhjB0EcJieWODGUt6m6mQwNNUiT27DnC7kqiWl5bfdXwTBrGPEMtkY4JHrfn25U44J XRpG8wEHI2IijHU6b5BBoeXEPTitbUUU3q25+7G2dJ+Bop/8BIsVupAaVddbistonYrD 7Jg1cgxi5lBwFp6/TQ2WICmy1ZJixHfRWhFVk= Original-Received: by 10.68.73.135 with SMTP id l7mr19577865pbv.57.1325900835266; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:47:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.142.247.28 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 17:46:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <874nw847lp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147425 Archived-At: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 02:36, Stephen J. Turnbull wrot= e: > Comparing kinds of software here is bogus. It wasn't me who proposed comparing software. > The question is "what do users want?" I think that's a strange metric. Users might want all kind of things that we wouldn't want to offer, because of lack of resources, project policies, etc. I think the question is "What can we offer (and want to offer) while maximizing usefulness to the users?" > I think is it quite reasonable to provide the service, default the > automatic check OFF in the sources that the Emacs project publishes, > and let redistributors make their own choices. In this scenario, if the redistributor enables checking for GnuTLS updates, who will distribute the DLL? The GNU project, or the redistributor? If the latter, I'm OK with this proposal (the OFF part is important, of course). > However, there are alternative ways to provide notification services, > such as providing an RSS feed for the update page, and making that > easy to access manually (eg, from the Help or File menus). Right. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma