From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The art of closing bug reports Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 03:31:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310261626 1855 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2011 01:33:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 01:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 10 03:33:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qfitw-0005W4-VC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 03:33:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qfitv-0005fx-Hz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:33:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60336) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qfism-0005Tj-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qfisk-0001vP-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:48278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qfisk-0001ux-3y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:32:26 -0400 Original-Received: by pwi12 with SMTP id 12so2254716pwi.0 for ; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 18:32:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/86GxDFxA6h1gbUyZMvJ8J+ImENAMm3QPUZFcRGvEJI=; b=cEpIN11gmhlKkxRW7jCYEL4Hsgo6nJXzeZ4tGsakb89ch2G+mebnH20NCP2LWopvn2 8b57T9myKsU4hfvbWZc+GobvFsu/CVIFHQjlBLASXOLQa3g0KYLImhvcAtuNggnrRYCr syiuNxrdbnHSuKffreohGYXCjs8Hxi4LRkpq8= Original-Received: by 10.143.18.21 with SMTP id v21mr1245166wfi.24.1310261544119; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 18:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.144.4 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 18:31:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141877 Archived-At: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 02:56, Lennart Borgman wrote: > I do not think that question is serious. That is my experience from > before. Can you explain how saying these words will help the > development of free software? I'll do, as soon as you explain to me how do help the development of free software (or just Emacs) bugs that say "I have this crash, for which I won't send a recipe because I'm a very busy guy, which perhaps happens because of my local modifications (that, by the way, I have sent you *hundred of times* and you refuse to include into Emacs just to make my life more difficult) and perhaps not, because I don't really remember, which happened so long ago that I don't even remember what was I doing at the time or how to reproduce it... and please don't ask me for clarification or help in reproduce it, because, as I said, I'm a very busy guy, so please do all the work yourselves and, by the way, what's not clear in my report?" If you think I'm being harsh or mocking you, you need to distance yourself from your own bug reports and try to read them as they are, not as they seem to be in your imagination. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma