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From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: "Ludwig, Mark" <ludwig.mark@siemens.com>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Dialog from emacsclientw.exe must be dismissed (was RE: Best practices for launching Emacs on Windows 7/8)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:51:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeL0SRMg-JQHJjZSAbm6eW-rwt+rbAts97W2L_3whRnmtZ5AA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BC5672F8AD4C054BAF167C9801500D1ABCB5899D@USSLMMBX003.net.plm.eds.com>

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Ludwig, Mark <ludwig.mark@siemens.com> wrote:

> I don't agree.  Why is it useful to make the user click OK (the only
> available button) /before/ launching the alternate editor?

Because if we don't say anything, the user won't be aware that there's
a problem. In fact, if we didn't say anything, we would not be having
this conversation in the first place. That message tells the user that
Emacs exited unexpectedly. I agree that it is not useful for *your*
use case, but that does not mean that it is not generally useful. I,
for once, much prefer getting these error messages than not getting
them (so I can try and find what's going wrong behind my back).

> Let's say you're correct that there is a running Emacs that's not
> responding, so the dialog information is reporting an "interesting"
> situation.  I claim that it /still/ doesn't matter, because
> emacsclientw has made its only attempt to connect to the
> supposedly-running server (which failed) and all the user can do is
> click OK, after which emacsclientw will launch the alternate editor
> (if any).  If there were a "Retry" button, that would be /very/different.

I didn't say that Emacs is not responding, I said that Emacs is not
responding to server requests. Perhaps you inadvertedly deactivated
the server mode, and jus M-x server-mode <RET> will activate it again
without having to exit and reload Emacs. If that seems far-fetched to
you, well, it's happened to me more times that I could count.

   J



  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-27 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19 18:17 Dialog from emacsclientw.exe must be dismissed (was RE: Best practices for launching Emacs on Windows 7/8) Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-26 18:47 ` Richard Copley
2013-06-26 23:11   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27  0:04     ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27  0:34       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 13:29         ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 14:01           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 14:28             ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 14:51               ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2013-06-27 15:34                 ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 20:50                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 21:27                     ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 22:14                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-27 21:35                     ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-06-27 22:17                       ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2633.1372368937.22516.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-06-28  7:38                       ` Jason Rumney
2013-06-28 17:55                         ` Richard Copley
2013-06-28 18:31                           ` Richard Copley
2013-06-29  3:52                             ` Ludwig, Mark

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