From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Git mirrors Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:33:17 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8762k095n4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uuksdxi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lissh32y.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87zkh8e286.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87d3e4gttq.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ehyjrhxh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318332863 20169 80.91.229.12 (11 Oct 2011 11:34:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 13:34:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDab8-0000pk-6Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:34:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59579 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDab7-00060Z-Jc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:34:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60441) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDab1-0005yZ-1R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDaav-00054M-Ch for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:42329) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDaas-0004u3-0b; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:33:58 -0400 Original-Received: by qadb17 with SMTP id b17so5851336qad.0 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:33:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tOlW5DuWxnT4aeozbgSLnG/HFkbUhuGqkvPWuOUPwvM=; b=V0gU8jGAWW7cYuIGo9gRAH++F2KGAv9PLfif4UiPbCaDvSLlyf/zSqX6qkvpD/j5ct oMXoHHX+xuZ/LBw2T5q3jMlYitW3J/go4yffRFDnHIAFVcpCOq8nGNtSIZIq+h8v92Uu AGzg1tlx2DMrCJYf+eWpo1pQlAUfa9UsR062o= Original-Received: by 10.68.0.227 with SMTP id 3mr8374026pbh.48.1318332837053; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.194.3 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:33:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ehyjrhxh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.216.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144879 Archived-At: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:33, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Promoting an unusable tool merely because it had the GNU label is most > definitely unfriendly competition. Assuming that by "unusable tool" you refer to the past, and even if it is not accurate (it was lacking, but hardly unusable, or we would not have been able to use it), well... which competition? Though I disagreed at the time, chosing a tool is not a race, but a decision, political as much as anything else. It seems logical to chose the one you favor, and then try to make it better. That git or mercurial or darcs or any other tool were available and free does not change the fact that Bazaar was, nominally at least, *the* GNU dVCS of choice. I think the above makes clear that I don't agree with your comment: "One could argue that Emacs should advocate the use of the strongest possible "team" of free software tools, rather than being biased to the use of GNU-labeled tools." That would be technically sound, politically less so. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Juanma