* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking @ 2013-06-08 4:35 Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-11 18:01 ` Glenn Morris 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-08 4:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 264 bytes --] Package: emacs Version: 24.3.50 With simple test file test.el having: (defun test () "This is a test.") emacs -Q --eval "(setq-default prog-prettify-symbols nil)" test.el ; correct emacs -Q --eval "(setq-default prog-prettify-symbols t)" test.el ; incorrect [-- Attachment #2: correct.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 1071 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: incorrect.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 1018 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-08 4:35 bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-11 18:01 ` Glenn Morris 2013-06-11 21:03 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-06-11 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574-done Fixed. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-11 18:01 ` Glenn Morris @ 2013-06-11 21:03 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-11 21:19 ` Glenn Morris 2013-06-11 21:29 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-11 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:01:18 -0400 Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote: GM> Fixed. Thanks to you and Stefan for looking into this. Was this a problem for emacs-lisp-mode only or is it general (so I should fix perl-mode and cfengine3-mode)? I don't see highlighting issues there but perhaps I simply have missed them. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-11 21:03 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-11 21:19 ` Glenn Morris 2013-06-11 21:29 ` Juanma Barranquero 1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2013-06-11 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 Ted Zlatanov wrote: > Was this a problem for emacs-lisp-mode only or is it general (so I > should fix perl-mode and cfengine3-mode)? Only emacs-lisp-mode AFAICS. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-11 21:03 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-11 21:19 ` Glenn Morris @ 2013-06-11 21:29 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-11 21:35 ` Ted Zlatanov 1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-11 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3986 bytes --] On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > Thanks to you and Stefan for looking into this. I'm seeing another problem with prog-prettify-symbols, but I haven't filed yet a new bug because for now I can only reproduce it with my setup. Sometimes `lambda' gets correctly prettified, and sometimes no (see attached image). This is the char info for the correctly prettified lambda: position: 55719 of 81109 (69%), column: 11 character: l (displayed as l) (codepoint 108, #o154, #x6c) preferred charset: iso-8859-15 (ISO/IEC 8859/15) code point in charset: 0x6C script: latin syntax: w which means: word category: .:Base, L:Left-to-right (strong), a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman to input: type "C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT" or "C-x 8 RET NAME" buffer code: #x6C file code: #x6C (encoded by coding system iso-latin-9-unix) display: composed to form "lambda" (see below) Composed with the following character(s) "ambda" by the rule: (?λ) The component character(s) are displayed by these fonts (glyph codes): λ: uniscribe:-outline-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1 (#x301) See the variable `reference-point-alist' for the meaning of the rule. Character code properties: customize what to show name: LATIN SMALL LETTER L general-category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) canonical-combining-class: 0 (Spacing, split, enclosing, reordrant, and Tibetan subjoined) bidi-class: L (Left-to-Right) decomposition: (108) ('l') mirrored: N uppercase: 76 (L) titlecase: 76 (L) There are text properties here: charset iso-8859-15 composition [Show] face font-lock-keyword-face fontified t and this is the info for the incorrect one: position: 55396 of 81109 (68%), column: 11 character: l (displayed as l) (codepoint 108, #o154, #x6c) preferred charset: iso-8859-15 (ISO/IEC 8859/15) code point in charset: 0x6C script: latin syntax: w which means: word category: .:Base, L:Left-to-right (strong), a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman to input: type "C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT" or "C-x 8 RET NAME" buffer code: #x6C file code: #x6C (encoded by coding system iso-latin-9-unix) display: composed to form "lambda" (see below) Composed with the following character(s) "ambda" by the rule: (?l ?a ?m ?b ?d ?a) The component character(s) are displayed by these fonts (glyph codes): l: uniscribe:-outline-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 (#x4F) a: uniscribe:-outline-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 (#x44) m: uniscribe:-outline-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 (#x50) b: uniscribe:-outline-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 (#x45) d: uniscribe:-outline-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 (#x47) a: uniscribe:-outline-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 (#x44) See the variable `reference-point-alist' for the meaning of the rule. Character code properties: customize what to show name: LATIN SMALL LETTER L general-category: Ll (Letter, Lowercase) canonical-combining-class: 0 (Spacing, split, enclosing, reordrant, and Tibetan subjoined) bidi-class: L (Left-to-Right) decomposition: (108) ('l') mirrored: N uppercase: 76 (L) titlecase: 76 (L) There are text properties here: charset iso-8859-15 composition [Show] face font-lock-keyword-face fontified t Adding a char before it or otherwise modifying the line makes the lambda be correctly prettified again. Weird. [-- Attachment #2: bug.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 6127 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-11 21:29 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-11 21:35 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-11 21:50 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-12 2:54 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-11 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 23:29:49 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: JB> I'm seeing another problem with prog-prettify-symbols, but I haven't JB> filed yet a new bug because for now I can only reproduce it with my JB> setup. JB> Sometimes `lambda' gets correctly prettified, and sometimes no (see JB> attached image). ... JB> Composed with the following character(s) "ambda" by the rule: JB> (?l ?a ?m ?b ?d ?a) ... JB> Adding a char before it or otherwise modifying the line makes the JB> lambda be correctly prettified again. Weird. Weird. I don't know what's happening, and it works well for me. Does turning `font-lock-mode' off and back on fix it? Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-11 21:35 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-11 21:50 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-11 22:41 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-15 8:23 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-12 2:54 ` Juanma Barranquero 1 sibling, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-11 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > Weird. I don't know what's happening, and it works well for me. Does > turning `font-lock-mode' off and back on fix it? No. BTW, shouldn't turning font-lock-mode off disable the pretiffication? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-11 21:50 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-11 22:41 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-15 8:23 ` Ted Zlatanov 1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-11 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > >> Weird. I don't know what's happening, and it works well for me. Does >> turning `font-lock-mode' off and back on fix it? > > No. Or really, not always. I just tried with startup.el (which has lots of lambdas), and in some cases M-x font-lock-mode M-x font-lock-mode fixed the faulty lambda composition, and sometimes it didn't. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-11 21:50 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-11 22:41 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-15 8:23 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-15 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii 2013-06-15 16:57 ` Juanma Barranquero 1 sibling, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-15 8:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 23:50:18 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: JB> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: >> Weird. I don't know what's happening, and it works well for me. Does >> turning `font-lock-mode' off and back on fix it? JB> No. JB> BTW, shouldn't turning font-lock-mode off disable the pretiffication? They are entirely implemented by font-lock keywords, so I would assume so. At least for me, that works every time. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-15 8:23 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-15 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii 2013-06-15 16:57 ` Juanma Barranquero 1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-15 8:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 14574 > From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 04:23:34 -0400 > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 23:50:18 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: > > JB> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > >> Weird. I don't know what's happening, and it works well for me. Does > >> turning `font-lock-mode' off and back on fix it? > > JB> No. > > JB> BTW, shouldn't turning font-lock-mode off disable the pretiffication? > > They are entirely implemented by font-lock keywords, so I would assume so. > > At least for me, that works every time. From Juanma's data, it is clear that the composition list is sometimes created incorrectly, to include the list of all the characters in "lambda". The way to debug this is to catch the circumstances when this happens. One possible way of doing that (a.k.a. "printf debugging") is to instrument prog--prettify-font-lock-compose-symbol so that it logs a message with values of important variables when the composition is incorrect, i.e. when the rule is (?l ?a ?m ?b ?d ?a). That should give enough hints to find the villain. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-15 8:23 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-15 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-15 16:57 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-15 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-15 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 490 bytes --] On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 23:50:18 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: > > JB> BTW, shouldn't turning font-lock-mode off disable the pretiffication? > > They are entirely implemented by font-lock keywords, so I would assume so. > > At least for me, that works every time. That's not what I see. M-x font-lock-mode turns off font-locking, but the compositions to λ remain. Is that another bug? [-- Attachment #2: bug.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 6114 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-15 16:57 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-15 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii 2013-06-15 22:48 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-15 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 14574 > From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:57:13 +0200 > > > JB> BTW, shouldn't turning font-lock-mode off disable the pretiffication? > > > > They are entirely implemented by font-lock keywords, so I would assume so. > > > > At least for me, that works every time. > > That's not what I see. M-x font-lock-mode turns off font-locking, but > the compositions to λ remain. Probably because turning off font-lock removes the font-lock text properties, but doesn't remove the 'composition' text property. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-15 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-15 22:48 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-16 0:07 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-16 10:03 ` Dmitry Gutov 0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-15 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 14574 On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > Probably because turning off font-lock removes the font-lock text > properties, but doesn't remove the 'composition' text property. Yes. But IIUC what Ted said, turning off font-lock mode is removing the prettification for him. ?? As for the composition text property, I suppose it could be possible to mark the prettified text during font-locking and use some font-lock -hook or -function to remove it at turn-off time? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-15 22:48 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 0:07 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-16 1:52 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-16 10:03 ` Dmitry Gutov 1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-16 0:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 00:48:34 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: JB> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: >> Probably because turning off font-lock removes the font-lock text >> properties, but doesn't remove the 'composition' text property. JB> Yes. But IIUC what Ted said, turning off font-lock mode is removing JB> the prettification for him. ?? Sorry for the misunderstanding. I read your question incorrectly. Turning off font-lock in the same buffer does not remove the prettification. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 0:07 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-16 1:52 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-16 9:34 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 1:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > Sorry for the misunderstanding. I read your question incorrectly. > Turning off font-lock in the same buffer does not remove the > prettification. Aha. Well, perhaps it shoud... :-) I have a few more questions about prog-prettify-symbols, but I'll ask them in emacs-devel. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 1:52 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 9:34 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-16 10:11 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-16 23:14 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-16 9:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 03:52:43 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: JB> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: >> Sorry for the misunderstanding. I read your question incorrectly. >> Turning off font-lock in the same buffer does not remove the >> prettification. JB> Aha. Well, perhaps it shoud... :-) Yes, I agree. Maybe we can add a `prog-prettify-uninstall' function that expects the buffer-local `prog-prettify-symbols-alist' to be unchanged and removes all compositions named in it? And that can be added to the font-lock unload hook when `prog-mode' is installed? Or should it be lower level, where font-lock mode remembers "prettify" compositions as a text property? That would work regardless of `prog-prettify-symbols-alist' and would not require an unload hook. It would also work if we add prettification in other modes, not just `prog-mode'. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 9:34 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-16 10:11 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-16 11:25 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-16 23:14 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > Or should it be lower level, where font-lock mode remembers "prettify" > compositions as a text property? That would work regardless of > `prog-prettify-symbols-alist' and would not require an unload hook. It > would also work if we add prettification in other modes, not just > `prog-mode'. Yes, that's better IMHO. In fact, I like Dmitry's suggestion: > Maybe we should make a font-lock-specific alias for `composition', like > `font-lock-face' is for `face', and use that. Seems the saner alternative if we are piggybacking into font-lock to do composition... J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 10:11 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 11:25 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-16 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:11:20 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: JB> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: >> Or should it be lower level, where font-lock mode remembers "prettify" >> compositions as a text property? That would work regardless of >> `prog-prettify-symbols-alist' and would not require an unload hook. It >> would also work if we add prettification in other modes, not just >> `prog-mode'. JB> Yes, that's better IMHO. In fact, I like Dmitry's suggestion: >> Maybe we should make a font-lock-specific alias for `composition', like >> `font-lock-face' is for `face', and use that. JB> Seems the saner alternative if we are piggybacking into font-lock to JB> do composition... OK. Unfortunately I don't know font-lock well at all, so I would appreciate it if someone else could implement this. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 9:34 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-16 10:11 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 23:14 ` Stefan Monnier 2013-06-17 2:45 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-06-16 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 > Yes, I agree. Maybe we can add a `prog-prettify-uninstall' function > that expects the buffer-local `prog-prettify-symbols-alist' to be > unchanged and removes all compositions named in it? And that can be > added to the font-lock unload hook when `prog-mode' is installed? The simpler solution is to make prog-prettify-install add `composition' to the extra-managed properties. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 23:14 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2013-06-17 2:45 ` Eli Zaretskii 2013-06-17 2:49 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-17 2:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 14574 > From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 19:14:45 -0400 > > The simpler solution is to make prog-prettify-install add `composition' > to the extra-managed properties. Won't that remove _all_ composition properties, not just those added by prog-prettify-symbols? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-17 2:45 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-17 2:49 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-17 7:25 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-17 2:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 14574 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > Won't that remove _all_ composition properties, not just those added > by prog-prettify-symbols? Yes. So if someone is editing with a programming mode that uses prettifying, *and* has enabled prettifying, *and* has other, unrelated, composed chars in the buffer, *and* turns off font-locking, s/he will have a bit of trouble. Seems bearable to me, pending real user complains. J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-17 2:49 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-17 7:25 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-17 9:22 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-17 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-17 7:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 04:49:57 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: JB> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: >> Won't that remove _all_ composition properties, not just those added >> by prog-prettify-symbols? JB> Yes. So if someone is editing with a programming mode that uses JB> prettifying, *and* has enabled prettifying, *and* has other, JB> unrelated, composed chars in the buffer, *and* turns off font-locking, JB> s/he will have a bit of trouble. Seems bearable to me, pending real JB> user complains. IIUC, that would be pretty annoying when editing Perl or other languages with Unicode (e.g. Cyrillic) data in the script. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-17 7:25 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-17 9:22 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-17 10:52 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-17 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii 2013-06-17 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-17 9:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > IIUC, that would be pretty annoying when editing Perl or other languages > with Unicode (e.g. Cyrillic) data in the script. Not many scripts (relatively speaking) use the kind of character variation that needs composition (mostly arabic and many indic scripts, but not cyrilic, I think). But in any case, it is really common to deactivate font-locking while programming? I think I've never done it unless I was specifically trying to debug some problem with font-locking. Also, we're still a long way from another release, I suppose. Plenty of time to receive user complains and implement a more thorough fix, IMHO. J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-17 9:22 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-17 10:52 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-17 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii 1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-17 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:22:33 +0200 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote: JB> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: >> IIUC, that would be pretty annoying when editing Perl or other languages >> with Unicode (e.g. Cyrillic) data in the script. JB> Not many scripts (relatively speaking) use the kind of character JB> variation that needs composition (mostly arabic and many indic JB> scripts, but not cyrilic, I think). I didn't UC then :) Yes, I agree it's probably not going to be a problem. JB> But in any case, it is really common to deactivate font-locking while JB> programming? I think I've never done it unless I was specifically JB> trying to debug some problem with font-locking. Also, we're still a JB> long way from another release, I suppose. Plenty of time to receive JB> user complains and implement a more thorough fix, IMHO. I'm OK with the change. Ted ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-17 9:22 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-17 10:52 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-17 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii 2013-06-17 16:24 ` Juanma Barranquero 1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-17 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero, Kenichi Handa; +Cc: 14574 > From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:22:33 +0200 > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > > > IIUC, that would be pretty annoying when editing Perl or other languages > > with Unicode (e.g. Cyrillic) data in the script. > > Not many scripts (relatively speaking) use the kind of character > variation that needs composition If you are the user of those particular scripts, removing the compositions will be rather nasty for you, because it makes the text barely legible, sometimes not at all. > (mostly arabic and many indic scripts, but not cyrilic, I think). Arabic uses automatic compositions, not static compositions produced by text properties. If you want to see which scripts use the 'composition' properties, search Lisp files for compose-region. Perhaps Handa-san could tell if having 'composition' properties in comments and strings is something that can happen in real life for some scripts used in those comments/strings. If it can (and I don't know one way or the other), then I don't think we should remove all of the 'composition' properties just because font-lock was turned off. > we're still a long way from another release, I suppose. Plenty of > time to receive user complains and implement a more thorough fix, > IMHO. You assume that representatives of affected communities track Emacs development. But that assumption is not really guaranteed to be true. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-17 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-17 16:24 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-17 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-17 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 14574 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > Arabic uses automatic compositions, not static compositions produced > by text properties. If you want to see which scripts use the > 'composition' properties, search Lisp files for compose-region. Ethiopic, indian languages, Lao, Thai, Tibetan and Tai languages, currently. > Perhaps Handa-san could tell if having 'composition' properties in > comments and strings is something that can happen in real life for > some scripts used in those comments/strings. If it can (and I don't > know one way or the other), then I don't think we should remove all of > the 'composition' properties just because font-lock was turned off. I don't disagree (or at least, not strongly), but I think is an unlikely problem because, as I said, the set of conditions under which can happen is not that big. Currently only Perl (but not Cperl), (e)lisp and CFEngine buffers will be affected, and only if the user choses to enable prettification, which is off by default. And then s/he would have to need to turn off font-locking, which I don't think it is really a common operation while editing code, is it? So it seems to me like we have a two line fix for 95% of use cases (were 95% is a number just invented out of thin air, but you catch my meaning), where covering 100% of cases is likely to be much more complex. > You assume that representatives of affected communities track Emacs > development. But that assumption is not really guaranteed to be true. No, I'm assuming that we usually go for fixing real problems versus perceived ones. Even if we are mistaken and the affected communities discover after the fact, is not like there are no workarounds or we cannot implement a 100% fix later. But don't take that as that I'm opposing a better fix. I'm not. I just don't see the point yet. J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-17 16:24 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-17 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii 2013-06-17 16:51 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-17 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 14574 > From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:24:11 +0200 > Cc: Kenichi Handa <handa@gnu.org>, 14574@debbugs.gnu.org > > I'm assuming that we usually go for fixing real problems versus > perceived ones. Let's see... You examine a bridge and discover that one of its supports is shaky, and will probably not hold when the next storm comes. Is that a real problem or a perceived one? ;-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-17 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-17 16:51 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-17 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 14574 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > Let's see... You examine a bridge and discover that one of its > supports is shaky, and will probably not hold when the next storm > comes. Is that a real problem or a perceived one? ;-) That depends on whether the bridge is the Golden Gate, or some small wooden bridge over a dry river in the middle of the desert :-) J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-17 7:25 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-17 9:22 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-17 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-06-17 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 > IIUC, that would be pretty annoying when editing Perl or other languages > with Unicode (e.g. Cyrillic) data in the script. They don't use the composition text property, AFAIK. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-15 22:48 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-16 0:07 ` Ted Zlatanov @ 2013-06-16 10:03 ` Dmitry Gutov 2013-06-16 10:12 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-16 23:16 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2013-06-16 10:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 14574 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> writes: > As for the composition text property, I suppose it could be possible > to mark the prettified text during font-locking and use some font-lock > -hook or -function to remove it at turn-off time? I have some custom code in my init directory that does something very similar, and I've settled on adding `composition' to `font-lock-extra-managed-props'. IIRC, the problem I was solving is that otherwise removing a few chars from the composed symbol did not make it un-composed. Maybe we should make a font-lock-specific alias for `composition', like `font-lock-face' is for `face', and use that. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 10:03 ` Dmitry Gutov @ 2013-06-16 10:12 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-16 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii 2013-06-16 23:16 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry Gutov; +Cc: 14574 On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> wrote: > Maybe we should make a font-lock-specific alias for `composition', like > `font-lock-face' is for `face', and use that. Yes, I like that idea. But, will it complicate and/or slow redisplay? J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 10:12 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii 2013-06-16 16:18 ` Juanma Barranquero 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-16 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 14574, dgutov > From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:12:56 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 14574@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> wrote: > > > Maybe we should make a font-lock-specific alias for `composition', like > > `font-lock-face' is for `face', and use that. > > Yes, I like that idea. > > But, will it complicate and/or slow redisplay? Why do you think it could do that? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-16 16:18 ` Juanma Barranquero 2013-06-16 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 14574, dgutov On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > Why do you think it could do that? Because I know nothing about redisplay, and because checking composition plus some other property sounds like more work than just checking on composition. OTOH, I don't know what I'm talking about, so I will be very happy to know that we could add a font-lock specific composition property alias and not affect performance... J ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 16:18 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2013-06-16 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Juanma Barranquero; +Cc: 14574, dgutov > From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:18:03 +0200 > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, 14574@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > > Why do you think it could do that? > > Because I know nothing about redisplay, and because checking > composition plus some other property sounds like more work than just > checking on composition. OTOH, I don't know what I'm talking about, so > I will be very happy to know that we could add a font-lock specific > composition property alias and not affect performance... The best way is just try it and see. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-16 10:03 ` Dmitry Gutov 2013-06-16 10:12 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-16 23:16 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-06-16 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry Gutov; +Cc: Juanma Barranquero, 14574 > Maybe we should make a font-lock-specific alias for `composition', like > `font-lock-face' is for `face', and use that. Let's not bother. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* bug#14574: prog-prettify-symbols breaks font-locking 2013-06-11 21:35 ` Ted Zlatanov 2013-06-11 21:50 ` Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-12 2:54 ` Juanma Barranquero 1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2013-06-12 2:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 14574 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: > Weird. I don't know what's happening, and it works well for me. I can repeat it, so I'll file a new bug report. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
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