On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 1:56 AM Drew Adams wrote: > 24.5 works fine for me with -nw. Do you mean that if you create a desktop shortcut to 24.5's runemacs.exe that runs it with -Q -nw, and click on it, you get Emacs running in a console? Because I get an Emacs running with a hidden console (no visible frame). > That's what I've used for -nw in the past. > But I just tried plain `emacs' for -nw, and > that works too. (I use plain `emacs' for GUI.) I'm confused now. What do you mean with "That's what I've used for -nw in the past"? From a shortcut, or from CMD? > Does Emacs 26 on Windows 10 work for you > with -nw? 26.3 works as expected: 1) "emacs.exe -Q -nw" from CMD: starts a console Emacs inside CMD 2) "emacs.exe -Q" from CMD: starts a windows Emacs, but it's attached to the original CMD. 3) "runemacs.exe -Q -nw" from CMD: starts a detached console Emacs (i.e., I see nothing because there's no window) 4) "runemacs.exe -Q" from CMD: starts a detached windows Emacs (CMD is available to use). 5) "emacs.exe -Q -nw" from a shortcut: stars a console Emacs. 6) "emacs.exe -Q" from a shortcut: Stars a windows Emacs, but there's a visible console. 7) "runemacs.exe -Q -nw" from a shortcut: starts a console Emacs, but the console is hidden, so nothing is visible. 8) "runemacs.exe -Q" from a shortcut: starts a windows Emacs. Basically, runemacs.exe exists *specifically* to help with 2) and 6), because windows Emacs *always* creates a console, but when you're running a windows Emacs, you don't want to see it (it's just a nuisance). But if you're trying to run a console Emacs, "emacs.exe -Q -nw" is what you want, either in a shortcut or from the command line. So, what you see is not a bug, and I think it's always been so. I just tried with 20.7.3 and I get the very same behavior.