From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 18:07:40 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352048905 11675 80.91.229.3 (4 Nov 2012 17:08:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , Emacs development discussions To: Dani Moncayo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 04 18:08:35 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TV3gY-0006ns-KI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 18:08:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53621 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TV3gP-0006pA-HO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:08:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42331) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TV3gN-0006p0-QT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:08:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TV3gM-00089t-HD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:08:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com ([74.125.83.41]:55233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TV3gM-00089W-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:08:22 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id c4so3063096eek.0 for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:08:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=ub50GZ0PW6Cu5yqP/PwQV4/3Q8xU7EKWNXKcSf5hhZY=; b=UQl+TbQ5FDO9zkTyBoQN0c18K+uao5gB36v3SkAEWc+F1gYUTEvBz48tabKKw1Qocr LwC9nw7Arh+OPhM6EwrSHC7rF5eSVocDQjhoKEX0xtvlr+8G14ql6W9JVNl2MCEjZn7w SN5MfCe5sDOesq92CuHzN4JUlTjIe160LTzsVecxkp0JPQwufvMcKrl4mVRRcqfyhEQk WknYaC/MY8BpVnQBgo0xdPH3b9lVTGJwrZUd8RzHn/rZJ37PWnKebdev7BeNoVCgGcfg PiIt6lBuRG3qo9EJ0TUezYu/M9wIOcfdXeam5hYFAztbaFzdfqQ1cxpkIVYetqAZJQ0d nf5A== Original-Received: by 10.14.173.67 with SMTP id u43mr27904410eel.27.1352048900504; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:08:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.223.62.204 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 09:07:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 74.125.83.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154664 Archived-At: On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Dani Moncayo wrote: > I disagree: IMHO, the words that best describe the direction of a > _vertical_ movement are precisely "up" and "down", and are they are > used elsewhere for this very purpose. Yes, up and down describe vertical movement, but as the whole thread shows, they do not clearly say what is moving, so both readings are possible. move-point-towards-end-of-buffer* and move-point-towards-beginning-of-buffer* are unambiguos. Juanma * I've chosen long names so no one thinks that I'm proposing them, which I'm not.