From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:18:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372105151 20299 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2013 20:19:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14704@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sebastian Wiesner Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 24 22:19:11 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UrDEE-0000BU-1u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:19:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38947 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrDED-0005l3-5g for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:19:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33867) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrDE8-0005ic-FN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:19:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrDE7-0006py-DX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UrDE7-0006pu-9u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:19:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrDE6-0002P2-Uk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:19:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14704 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14704-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14704.13721051299205 (code B ref 14704); Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:19:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2013 20:18:49 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39071 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrDDt-0002OP-9M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:18:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-f47.google.com ([74.125.83.47]:34069) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UrDDq-0002O5-WA for 14704@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:18:47 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f47.google.com with SMTP id e49so6153152eek.20 for <14704@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:18:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1jNyewsSonqQMhnvX9Tg6X47qzJbsizGkMY7LONTdgE=; b=R3OhWcoHsGQWN6ds3uAndtqql2K6cITQlPREKbGEefjkr6vEY6La0BYJ5bOVbyNePE 0hY1w0n8RUxVmiQh/hnBYYPLkosZBSkKvBaRD1ot8eo+5FgNZVNC97unF/5GGtocbpLn w6Xg1qyMUUmsg7kJXP3G+86zbcC6H6YcYtq3sAgUi0oaz+PI8Bz3cusGTm4dPd2dOaDN I2R8W+MxGz+NRBDWCrEFNPIOmm7dsVYSRGRhas95CEa9a9NcWv7ddjVF8OmcGNh7IHjc ICAJPFnQsvBn22b073u5D/Mj5tXglmWKlkSzAdTWiXVXDl9QRVATmrGNQHQ9D/xTI3Nt zL6w== X-Received: by 10.14.218.8 with SMTP id j8mr26380581eep.129.1372105120875; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.142.4 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:18:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75531 Archived-At: On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Sebastian Wiesner wr= ote: > But instead I did you work: I debugged the problem, found the cause, > and reported it. I am sorry that I did not provide a patch right > away, Nobody has dismissed your bug reports for not having a patch. > and have not signed any > copyright papers and no intention whatsoever of doing so. I doubt > that any patch of mine would have been accepted. Until 10 lines or so, they could be accepted if they fix the bug and are clearly written, as a "tiny change". > I did neither scream nor demand " Don't you test your code?! " counts as a scream and a demand in my view. > By not writing or running tests for *your* code you have wasted *my* > time. That is what I call =E2=80=9Crude=E2=80=9D. Your definition of "rude" seems quite one-sided. > Fine, let's go home than. I'll ask ma about good manners, and you'll > ask your high school teacher about software testing. We'll see who of > us learns more on this trip=E2=80=A6 Let's try not to turn this into a high school match... J