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From: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Namespace macros (was: Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 00:11:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAdUY-LvWEgVc0AiQP8zDiQYrvrdt0bZsVbBNwo55=OE8GE9Wg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On 7 Dec 2014 15:40, "Helmut Eller" <eller.helmut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Dec 07 2014, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
>
> > I don't know Stefan's motives, but would love to see actual namespaces
> > in Emacs Lisp.  The closest thing I've seen is
> > https://github.com/Bruce-Connor/names which can be installed from the
> > GNU ELPA.  Perhaps that's an actual problem we keep ignoring because
> > it's easy to hack around it "just that once."
>
> Thanks for the pointer.
>
> I also wrote a namespace macro: https://github.com/ellerh/namespace.el
> Another one I know is: https://github.com/chrisbarrett/elisp-namespaces
>
> The experience with my own namespace macro was that it works fairly well
> when writing a library from scratch, in particular when the code
> consists mostly of functions and almost no quoted symbols.  If it works
> well, then the code looks a lot neater with namespaces.
>
> But it was also rather useless when I tried it to use it with the SLIME
> codebase.  The existing code uses prefixes in inconsistent ways and
> quoted symbols are needed surprisingly often.

Names.el partially solves that by namespacing sharp-quoted symbols as
function names (you have to use the sharp-quote on function names for this
to work, but that's good practice anyway). This catches the majority of the
uses of quotes for me.

Quoted variable names are impossible to identify with certainty, so Names
doesn't try to namespace them by default. But but it does offer the option
to namespace regular quoted symbols as variable names.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-08  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-04 23:43 Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05  1:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05  2:42   ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05  3:23     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05  3:32       ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05  4:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05  8:52           ` Leo Liu
2014-12-05 14:40             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 14:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 15:34               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 18:32                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06  9:38                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05 22:08                   ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-05  9:54   ` David Kastrup
2014-12-05 14:51     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:12       ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 18:34         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 19:06           ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06  3:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 18:01   ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 19:19     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:54       ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05  5:47 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-12-05 14:49   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 17:20     ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-05 19:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:26         ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06  0:13           ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06  0:22             ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-12-06  4:09           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-06  9:12             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-06 22:24               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07  3:10                 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07  6:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07  7:51                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07 16:22                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-07 17:40                         ` Namespace macros (was: Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs) Helmut Eller
2014-12-08  0:11                           ` Artur Malabarba [this message]
2014-12-08  7:55                             ` Namespace macros Helmut Eller
2014-12-08  8:36                               ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08  9:17                                 ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 11:02                                   ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 11:21                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 11:42                                       ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-08 11:52                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08 12:52                                     ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-08 20:59                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 23:37                                         ` Artur Malabarba
2014-12-09  0:25                                         ` Helmut Eller
2014-12-07 18:30                         ` Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Drew Adams
2014-12-08  0:25                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08  1:21                           ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08  5:34                             ` Drew Adams
2014-12-08 20:59                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 21:48                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-09 19:35                                   ` namespaces Ivan Shmakov
2014-12-08 20:59                             ` Generators (iterators) for Gnu Emacs Richard Stallman
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     [not found]                             ` <<9ae6762d-a52a-4a06-b2e9-dab893a22d38@default>
     [not found]                               ` <<E1Xy5Os-0004cU-HF@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-12-08 21:17                                 ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 16:51                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 17:29                         ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-07 21:17                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 21:26                             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-12-07 21:32                             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-07 21:43                               ` Drew Adams
2014-12-07 23:31                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-07 23:39                                 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08  2:23                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08  2:24                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-12-08  3:23                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08 10:01                                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-12-08 20:35                                         ` David Engster
2014-12-08 21:45                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08  0:18                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-08  2:25                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-08  2:55                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-12-07  8:54                 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-07  9:25                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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