From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:38:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434382733 5710 80.91.229.3 (15 Jun 2015 15:38:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 15 17:38:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4WTJ-0003SP-Vq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:38:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34902 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4WTJ-0006hV-Db for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:38:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36703) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4WT6-0006hN-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4WT5-0006ra-OY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:38:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]:34377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4WT5-0006rR-Gt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:38:35 -0400 Original-Received: by labbc20 with SMTP id bc20so24324070lab.1 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:38:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ScM6ckBsv85CIdA5okae7zVOaWljaAWwGOrCfNZKHWM=; b=hU0LB9KMmIWU1PgquG6izv9sUSZtv+bZtp0lZrMNIxWjunUlzCrc2f1JbyEuquBYQi 5+ZeluAmrcfeMSSjPYc4oj7hLwYq2fe29rcrNNENWBDksMqlE7uRhf7f8iR3RiV0VjZt JtRyTwVEjBZGCfxWdSRuTYynRFIQ7YXTquQsSjbYKmi2eGoFN/jSs9U+XWJWxtkWWj4Z Wus2simLgAyFJ7JHgxnSNceFaPaFm8IseNfdEMLe4C3/7DqSfIc9j9fyuCTiBNcDVV3H eMW+He0sj1mu+fWF6/u5dSYT9sC0vmEKyPwopQv6W4IHqvVOBikuldeU9sETCL7l6rES eM1w== X-Received: by 10.152.87.33 with SMTP id u1mr4609151laz.35.1434382714491; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.214.133 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:38:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZMThei4EVR_75KV9jVAtYSnj6Lg X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187180 Archived-At: > Recently, there has been a move, primarily by Paul, to introduce > non-working characters (specifically, LEFT/RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARKs, > or (less shoutily) "curly quotes") into our sources and *Help* buffers, > not just marginally, but routinely into all our doc strings and error > strings. Maybe I just haven't run into them, but I haven't seen curved quotes inserted into the source of any docstrings. I keep writing them with ` and ', and they get displayed as curved quotes on the Help buffer (which looks fine to me). If it's happening, then I am against this. But, just to be clear, I am very much in favor of *displaying* them as curved quotes on Help buffers by default (which is what I thought we were doing now). > What do people think? I'm in favor of displaying quotes as curved by default. But I'm against using them in the actual source (although they don't bother my workflow).