From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ASCII-folded search [was: Re: Upcoming loss of usability ...] Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:56:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87ioamz8if.fsf@petton.fr> <32013464-2300-46c6-ba46-4a3c36bfee5d@default> <87twu62nnt.fsf@mbork.pl> <87oakdfwim.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83wpz1lh7c.fsf@gnu.org> <83oakdl7yj.fsf@gnu.org> <83ioall3x5.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9pzxtyi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87k2uudoqr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87616c94g4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h9pw6922.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a8vn75r7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <0f72b0bd-0170-414c-b926-0b836a973d67@default> <9b42a5bc-48e3-4111-b37d-280867903527@default> <12de813f-cffa-4231-95a4-5b9ee2709123@default> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435355815 20731 80.91.229.3 (26 Jun 2015 21:56:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 26 23:56:55 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8bcD-0007Lj-GV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:56:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33883 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8bcC-00075g-UP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:56:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44489) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8bbr-0006se-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:56:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8bbq-00055l-P4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:56:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::232]:33095) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8bbq-00055E-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:56:30 -0400 Original-Received: by lbbvz5 with SMTP id vz5so71886647lbb.0 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:56:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qRzc0Vaz6uItW7V61H7wtIHdYnDpjQGGjvthTvcRh/g=; b=RYBptR5cLMBnFMIldYd2hVfpDlj6KeqIB4v4LHBVnlUwzP3n+/+MM8yEm6fSotn9fz 5EeTXgotjEYVBUkY334JVH8ds/6oEfiwk6BA3A9wxfeZTaKkOfN4oGvRUgi8HJqpQ0NK Xc3b+e3fqCQUv64VQTlJQw3kBSWjyTiE7jwMV/EFsUO6JzYoZ4PgYyldhdUHFU41I3td HEZpRS0UMqgEB5FaR/zPV4fZ1TFuoOb1Asd9A9gxGeXQGpfkl1wJwbIY16jAcKT1FBHV HuonMU5BoR3S2WJg3sXNqwtA+Jc3vsbudU2oYnEg7hGS9DXJ39rrNhs3Kfgvlv7fBn+A RaXg== X-Received: by 10.112.204.6 with SMTP id ku6mr3489521lbc.73.1435355789643; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.214.133 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:56:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <12de813f-cffa-4231-95a4-5b9ee2709123@default> X-Google-Sender-Auth: G6BuVTyhtNExxr04A__j5OgQ1ng X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187582 Archived-At: 2015-06-26 21:34 GMT+01:00 Drew Adams : > [...] Just to be clear, when I talk about the possibility of this being futurely implemented, I'm referring to the "independent" part, not the "multiple" part. I agree multiple char folding is where this should go, I just don't agree it is important for these multiple options to be visually distinguishable (or independently toggleable) during isearch. May be you can convince me otherwise. But I think that most users will never customize the equivalence class used. From those that do customize it, most will never toggle it during interactive searches. >From those that do toggle it, most of them will prefer an "all-or-nothing" toggle/indicator. And then there are the few of the few of the few who wish they could see which equiv-classes are on or off, or wish they could toggle them independently during isearch. Which is great! But we shouldn't come up with a complex interface to satisfy this need if it's just gonna confuse a lot of other people.