From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Namespace macros Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:37:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: <877fy77zhp.fsf@web.de> <87k326d4ww.fsf@gmail.com> <877fy6rp2o.fsf@web.de> <548230FB.40307@dancol.org> <5482C872.5010304@dancol.org> <5483C537.3010707@dancol.org> <54840719.5080209@dancol.org> <87a92zmnv4.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a84c0fb1b260509bce82a X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418081877 31766 80.91.229.3 (8 Dec 2014 23:37:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 23:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Helmut Eller , emacs-devel To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 00:37:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7sE-0007fg-2v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:37:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36673 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7sD-00028y-Gh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:37:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42653) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7ry-00028s-Gk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:37:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7rx-0006hu-HL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:37:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]:46773) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xy7rv-0006h0-O6; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:37:31 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id q1so4947542lam.33 for ; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:37:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=X0d3vXLCHAkzzmNzKRtGZgyOtxtEAOzhgEsY6456pX0=; b=tyh9NSACuEmZgUdm5dbatU8qaJH+SBc2u5eFs3vi+NGMNUVu/Jmh6B0xX6cpEhgMfC 4yaew4PqkM14sD9lcDEHTJLvnGvyQxY7q60xK/96SBL1/Rr6odiStGuPOgVjPjM/YDsK kw3d3JgHRhTsNa2mvdkXJe0UJjTi+zMP/xF+G2rMt2DO1rBhCk1xtxrVUEE/gvSed+Nw 0+iN7VreYveqcnuivrqsvi765sofi1GjBLi5Co4Q7SUA/5KTMfVI6/eJtu+aDned1RE5 tvf3sCu+4igw9NNuT0+1qjwx2m1AMlao9+k7NEJiIRGtp+cPF62t2y4PzS1XX2JTtoo9 /FRw== X-Received: by 10.112.130.132 with SMTP id oe4mr18829811lbb.82.1418081850823; Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:37:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.112.53.137 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 15:37:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.112.53.137 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Dec 2014 15:37:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: Q5RRS7r1pCSZz6l-8RZtDUqCaEs X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179495 Archived-At: --047d7b3a84c0fb1b260509bce82a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 8 Dec 2014 18:59, "Richard Stallman" wrote: > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Some commands like M-x gnus or M-x rmail don't have proper prefixes. > > Could you explain what you mean? The names 'gnus' and 'rmail' are fine. > They are commands to invoke packages with the same names. He was just saying there's no way to define commands with these names inside a Names.el namespace (because all definitions inside it are prefixed with the package name). He was just mentioning a limitation of Names.el, not criticising those commands. (though, like I explained, it's not really a limitation). --047d7b3a84c0fb1b260509bce82a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 8 Dec 2014 18:59, "Richard Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
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> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example.= ]]]
>
> =C2=A0 > Some commands like M-x gnus or M-x rmail don't have pr= oper prefixes.
>
> Could you explain what you mean?=C2=A0 The names 'gnus' and &#= 39;rmail' are fine.
> They are commands to invoke packages with the same names.

He was just saying there's no way to define commands wit= h these names inside a Names.el namespace (because all definitions inside i= t are prefixed with the package name).

He was just mentioning a limitation of Names.el, not critici= sing those commands. (though, like I explained, it's not really a limit= ation).

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