From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: how to turn off automatic curly-quoting? Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:57:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5681a732-5741-4f56-b3d7-cb1edb739d32@default> <55BEA291.70402@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158c73ecb7487051c5cd048 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438559858 26815 80.91.229.3 (2 Aug 2015 23:57:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 23:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 03 01:57:37 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZM38K-0003ft-6r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 01:57:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57058 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZM38J-0005I6-OF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:57:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34923) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZM38G-0005I1-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZM38F-0001dF-Bu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]:33190) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZM38F-0001cS-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: by labpt2 with SMTP id pt2so4963304lab.0 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:57:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FcwYM3u8aIkzVr4R2qT5cNsrH4JfYoU/BKCAtsfd2vw=; b=gb4hqL7iN6mJzCDCT1+mklMLnYbNzbIiEQTaOjbJOzM1S4gfB4nCt2Y48EG1vO+aCd rFZ9/0feeMCHfhAPVrztHwLODu4iQol4hCPwuw3j2JxeH/YMH/j2RgpJe//57CCxlVYI iEt/g2r9jarowq844aKvvP9GcGXw0uqXrWoL4+IfVRtui2kDvRTGAe0kR2h2Y1zjgeby xCL+dTh8IFYpFUtpiKyeY1vepAtE0s47NN1STAuL2SUdte+l2qrPE/lu1lVDLvBiEmDB oklCJll6iq95kjNCvfPps8LjmffuOnoMO4cdDymQ/M7xuNi3mA7GRuYAM9JFNKiJRFYQ jVdg== X-Received: by 10.152.26.163 with SMTP id m3mr14212449lag.86.1438559849115; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.134.139 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.134.139 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:57:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55BEA291.70402@cs.ucla.edu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: E8lPgZCHvltkkWYoJ_VFLfeTzb0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188311 Archived-At: --089e0158c73ecb7487051c5cd048 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> This feature should be opt-in, not opt-out, IMHO. > > No, let's enable it in environments where it seems to work. Yes, please. >> Please consider also changing the option values so that >> you can use `M-x set-variable` in a reasonable way (i.e., >> without needing to know that ?` is 96 etc. - you cannot >> type ?` at the prompt). Character values are not helpful >> in such a context. > > > Alan made a similar suggestion a while ago, and it's easy enough to implement. Done in the attached patch, which I pushed just now. The options look good. Did I misread the patch, or is there no value for "just display the quote verbatim, never translating"? --089e0158c73ecb7487051c5cd048 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>> This feature should be opt-in, not opt-out, IMHO. <= br> >
> No, let's enable it in environments where it seems to work.=C2=A0 =

Yes, please.

>> Please consider also changing the option values so = that
>> you can use `M-x set-variable` in a reasonable way (i.e.,
>> without needing to know that ?` is 96 etc. - you cannot
>> type ?` at the prompt).=C2=A0 Character values are not helpful
>> in such a context.
>
>
> Alan made a similar suggestion a while ago, and it's easy enough t= o implement. Done in the attached patch, which I pushed just now.

The options look good.
Did I misread the patch, or is there no value for "just display the qu= ote verbatim, never translating"?

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