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From: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Async package.el
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:14:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAdUY-KCOvFXqwTCC7ZMym4QAxuRA5PsuLAi8HiNabUv2VNzpQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5525DFA1.5040307@yandex.ru>

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By the way, thanks for taking the time to try it out and think of all
possible issues.l

> I have two archives configured: GELPA and MELPA. After Emacs was
launched, I can `M-x list-packages', and the list starts with 2048-game, @
and abc-mode. 4clojure (and many other packages) is listed as "incompat".
>
> But after loading ends, 4clojure gets inserted at the second place. If I
quit it and call `M-x list-packages' in the same session, 4clojure is there.

I don't get that bevahiour from emacs -Q, but there was a problem with the
incompatible table a few days ago. Maybe your elc file is outdated?

>> The suggestion was not to use a question prompt, but to simply message

>> "Package refresh done, type g to revert buffer" instead of the ususal
>> "Package refresh done".
>
> If it's a message, it'll disappear after the next command. Then, I can be
only sure the list is refreshed if I don't select any items.
>
> And this information won't be present in the interface, aside from the
transient message. Kinda suboptimal.

Just like any other keybind. That's more of a general issue with the
package menu or Emacs itself. We can add "g-redisplay" to the quick-help
menu under `h' (which, btw, could use some improving.

>> No. If she reverts, any "i" marks will be forgotten. This is a flaw of
>> this approach, but one fortunate consequence is that there won't be
>> any such inconsistency problems.
>
>
> No, I mean if she agrees to revert after the installation has started (or
maybe just the downloading part started, and hasn't finished yet).

Ah, I see. Then we're fine. All information needed for a transaction is
gathered the moment you hit `x' (before you even answer `y'). Whatever
happens to the buffer after that is irrelevant.

>> The only
>> difference is that now the user has a brief chance to see the old
>> package before it is brutally taken beyond her reach.
>
>
> One could say it's worse than never seeing it, though. Wasted effort.

Yes, but you're wasting a few seconds of effort on a situation that will
happen very rarely. If that were a frequent occasion it might even be
infuriating, but how often do compatible packages become incompatible?

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-09 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-06 10:46 Async package.el Artur Malabarba
2015-04-06 13:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-06 14:32   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-07  1:19     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-07 21:46       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-08  1:49         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-08 13:32           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-09  1:49             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09 14:06               ` raman
2015-04-09 14:22                 ` Rasmus
2015-04-09 14:50                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-09 14:53                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-09 15:19                   ` async message Ivan Shmakov
2015-04-10 14:58                     ` raman
2015-04-10  1:32                   ` Async package.el raman
2015-04-09 18:18                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-10 15:00                   ` raman
2015-04-12  0:46                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-12  3:53                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-07 23:26       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-08  2:19         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-08  9:43           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-08 16:02             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-08 18:39               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-09  2:10                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09 10:14                   ` Artur Malabarba [this message]
2015-04-09 12:34                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-12  1:38                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-07  5:31     ` Daiki Ueno
2015-04-07  9:13       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-07  9:59         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-07 11:22           ` Robert Pluim
2015-04-07 12:33             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-07 14:29               ` Robert Pluim
2015-04-08  2:21                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-04-07 21:50           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-08  5:27           ` Daiki Ueno
2015-04-09  8:38           ` Achim Gratz
2015-04-09 13:09             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-07 18:06 ` Stefan Monnier

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