From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [elpa] master 24746ff 1/8: Drop Names dependency Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:28:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20151013163724.20147.92642@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <561FBCDC.7010800@cumego.com> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3f5c45975030522696259 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445210920 28470 80.91.229.3 (18 Oct 2015 23:28:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 23:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel To: =?UTF-8?Q?Przemys=C5=82aw_Wojnowski?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 19 01:28:39 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnxNW-0004JM-LD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 01:28:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35863 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnxNV-0006GO-JD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:28:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35893) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnxNG-0006GC-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:28:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnxNF-0000s5-GH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:28:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::233]:34296) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZnxNF-0000ru-9Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:28:21 -0400 Original-Received: by lbbwb3 with SMTP id wb3so68488458lbb.1 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:28:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vVBUKjbZITs/oFEUWpSSGvIdJh6ODBtEzfegI4bkvRE=; b=tcECBcl+Qn1sDjTGqVpPsYiY+kPs8HsvkHgD1wpQ3UWPBkNpB9OFedm+ELMpu+/LOJ E+2eJlveHWMOetuNPv1L1LjqeGT/gwhKdSHcsPfy5r3+tVOf4nOTmbVbvEulZ9nBsmbC H3Q6qQiWicaXQ9Ur3eJfJEOe5kw6W6CdtRrEwsMD5c6ZG2AeH5C4jQCo66Vk/zvLC4PW +Sqs1JxGOJOfgBgVWbcPq8YvnDric/0CLH2c1/UUtNdwRHmfaznlOgyVOgHO8d6gnROy TvTRk3zHjH32CPRj3fayFqJZpZ2l56xZm8viCjf9HeTLTLMxqz/fjDPSHkucpfLSxoYa W7Tw== X-Received: by 10.112.54.169 with SMTP id k9mr12648463lbp.95.1445210900491; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.22.197 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.22.197 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:28:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <561FBCDC.7010800@cumego.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: fMKt4YxbjCl3UuCKgOthdoZW5Jo X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192022 Archived-At: --001a11c3f5c45975030522696259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15 Oct 2015 3:49 pm, "Przemys=C5=82aw Wojnowski" = wrote: > > W dniu 13.10.2015 o 23:33, Artur Malabarba pisze: > [...] > >> Comparing the two, they perform very similarly. Names is slightly >> nicer when typing [1] and Nameless is slightly nicer when reading [2]. > > > IIUC these two packages are workarounds for lack of namespaces in elisp, right? > Is there any reason for not adding them? > AFAIK there were some proposals. Were they insufficient or, in general, there's not agreement for adding them? > > PS I don't want to start another 100 mails long thread. Simple "y/n" answers are ok. I've only ever seen very brief proposals. AFAIK, there is no agreement. Frankly, even if someone came up with a full implementation I wouldn't have the energy to join the discussion. The technical aspects don't really bother me, and the reading/writing inconvenience has now been addressed. --001a11c3f5c45975030522696259 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On 15 Oct 2015 3:49 pm, "Przemys=C5=82aw Wojnowski" <esperanto@cumego.com> wrote:
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> W dniu 13.10.2015 o 23:33, Artur Malabarba pisze:
> [...]
>
>> Comparing the two, they perform very similarly. Names is slightly<= br> >> nicer when typing [1] and Nameless is slightly nicer when reading = [2].
>
>
> IIUC these two packages are workarounds for lack of namespaces in elis= p, right?
> Is there any reason for not adding them?
> AFAIK there were some proposals. Were they insufficient or, in general= , there's not agreement for adding them?
>
> PS I don't want to start another 100 mails long thread. Simple &qu= ot;y/n" answers are ok.

I've only ever seen very brief proposals. AFAIK, there i= s no agreement.
Frankly, even if someone came up with a full implementation I wouldn't = have the energy to join the discussion. The technical aspects don't rea= lly bother me, and the reading/writing inconvenience has now been addressed= .

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